Get the Iranian F-14A IRIAF in the ‘Persian Tomcat’ event

[TEZACK27]

[Firestarter]

my brother in christ stop crying, it’s not as if the Brits didn’t express any objections at all…

The Iranian F-14 is going to America because lo and behold, the F-14 was designed and built in America.

Is there a double standard to do with “designed and built” when you compare it to Britain/Indian Subtree? Absolutely. Does the F-14 fit in the Russian tree? Probably not. Does it justifiably fit anywhere else other than USA? Probably not.

[PestoMystic]

Still man, the R-27R is no slouch. I’m also admitting the R-27 is a GOOD missile, perhaps even OP, especially with the F-14 radar, which is the main point.

[J_ackal]

Might as well start advocating to disband the split tree system. Probably better at this point if you are able to grind whatever you wish from each nation and put in a single final lineup. They could even do historical events based on lineups this way

[EddieVanHalo]

@GNDM_Panzer

Dude, I’m having a blast observing all this coping and seething from IvanBoos.

I am actually quite impressed with the War Thunder crowd not crying about an Iranian plane in an American tech tree.

“Wow that will cause so much trouble” er no apparently not.Good stuff.

@PestoMystic

Sorry. Going to @ you here Smin. Egypt, Cuba, Syria, and Kazakhstan (with Belarus camo as well) all had strong connections to the USSR for the duration of the Cold War.

Worst argument is Kazahkstan/Belarus, as both were republics of the USSR.

Best argument/analogue to this is Egypt, although I’d argue the Camp David accords we’re done diplomatically, whereas the Iranian revolution was, well, a revolution.

This also doesn’t really address the poor historical/geopolitical considerations that both the IRIAF F-14 and the T-90S “Bhishma” imply (even though you’ve said the developers don’t consider historicity, alliances, or geopolitics in these decisions).

Bro nobody wants or cares for the boring history lesson here,its a game and its an F14 on the American side with all the other f14s…noice

[Smin1080p_WT]

@PestoMystic

Sorry. Going to @ you here Smin. Egypt, Cuba, Syria, and Kazakhstan (with Belarus camo as well) all had strong connections to the USSR for the duration of the Cold War.

Worst argument is Kazahkstan/Belarus, as both were republics of the USSR.

Best argument/analogue to this is Egypt, although I’d argue the Camp David accords we’re done diplomatically, whereas the Iranian revolution was, well, a revolution.

This also doesn’t really address the poor historical/geopolitical considerations that both the IRIAF F-14 and the T-90S “Bhishma” imply (even though you’ve said the developers don’t consider historicity, alliances, or geopolitics in these decisions).

The F-14 is an American aircraft sold via export to Iran at a time when relations were good. Iran has no sub tree nation in game, therefor its vehicles can go wherever they are most applicable.

In this case, that would be America, since the F-14 has no connection to Russia other than its R-27, which as already noted, is within several nations arsenals in game.

The Bishma was added to the British tree, as we have mentioned numerious times now, because India is a designated sub tree of the British tree. Meaning its vehicle will be deployed there.

So once again, TL:DR

• If a nation has a sub tree home > It goes to that nation
• If a nation does not have a sub tree home > it can go wherever its deemed most appropriate, suited or needed most.

[J_ackal]

Meh It wont be op. Unless they do an asspull and give it ERs or r73

[PestoMystic]

At the right BR, absolutely. The kinematics of the AIM-54’s aren’t great, but for the BR, they’re more than sufficient.

[Smin1080p_WT]

@l2ulan

Can you please clarify, NZ has no sub tree or NZ is a UK sub tree?

NZ does not have a set sub tree.

[Gotchaツ]

Honestly would be a great way to avoid things looking political.

[J_ackal]

This whole game is about politics

[MJPIA]

I hope smin has a nice hot cup of whatever his favorite beverage is to get through the day.

[Deathmisser]

What about Isle of Man ? lol

[Gotchaツ]

It shouldn’t be, considering the toxic discord it creates and Gaijin’s desire to be apolitical.

[PestoMystic]

@Smin1080p_WT

If a nation does not have a sub tree home > it can go wherever its deemed most appropriate, suited or needed most.

I appreciate your entire comment, and it’s clarifying and helpful. Thank you.

Can you please explain however, how it’s appropriate that this is the IRIAF F-14, and not the IIAF? Since everyone seems to think the R-27 is neither an important factor for deciding the nation of the plane, nor that great of a weapon, why even include it? I’m sure the Sedjil is just going to be a lower quantity (also 2, and should take up the pylon space used by the R-27), lower quality AIM-54. Why not make it an IIAF F-14 event/premium vehicle for the US then?

[Deathmisser]

@Gotchaツ

toxic discord

What do you mean toxic ? Discord is way more fun : D

[PestoMystic]

@EddieVanHalo

Bro nobody wants or cares for the boring history lesson here

What’s boring to you is essential to others. Especially those people who come from said countries. Speak for yourself.

[Bakhtiari_IIAF]

Keep crying?

[GNDM_Panzer]

@EddieVanHalo

I am actually quite impressed with the War Thunder crowd not crying about an Iranian plane in an American tech tree.

“Wow that will cause so much trouble” er no apparently not.Good stuff.

I mean it’s just an F-14 with a goofy loadout. Effectiveness in-game unknown at this time. Camos can be changed accordingly so any concerns about the " nationality " of it can essentially be overwritten. Did I mention it’s a 100% USA manufactured aircraft?

[EddieVanHalo]

@J_ackal

This whole game is about politics

The game is about lots of plane and tank shaped pixels blowing each other up with a bit of occasional recognition for those who had the bravery to get inside one back whenever,that’s all it is.

@GNDM_Panzer

I mean it’s just an F-14 with a goofy loadout. Effectiveness in-game unknown at this time. Camos can be changed accordingly so any concerns about the " nationality " of it can essentially be overwritten. Did I mention it’s a 100% USA manufactured aircraft?

Absolutely.They fitted Chieftains out for the Shah back in the 70s a mile from where I live .Then the Revolution came and they never got delivered. It’s all about sales.Bit of history of you are interested I guess.This is nearly half a century ago now.

I’m not wetting my pants over it .If people can get over the politics and petty history it opens the game to so many great vehicles.

Still impressed with the lack of fuss. Faith restored.