I also think that if the central pylon permits the flare dispenser on the Mig 21, the Iar93 should get it. The point is that planes will be configured differently in peace time and in war time in terms of their weapons loadout. I know for a fact that Romanian Mig21 did not routinely carry the flare dispenser, I never saw one carry it in real life and I should have because I saw them a few times a week. The always carry the fuel tank instead. I suspect that if the Mig21 would have been sent on an interception mission against a potentially dangerous aircraft, they would have indeed carried the flare dispenser.
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MiG 21 Lancer doesn’t have a countermeasures pod.
Countermeasures are permanently on the aircraft, there are 2 dispensers left and right under the rear of the plane.
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Im talking about the Mig21 before they got updated to Lancer spec. The MF, MF-75, UM, US, M variants etc. Im talking about what they used to carry from the beginning of the 90s but before the Lancer update.
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I have a question :
I was watching a video and i see the plane has lower power than it should.
Is the Wiki test drive plane spaded or stock ? I know these specs might be place holder, but 16-18% power difference is something if that is the spaded engine power.
Because the plane has lower power (and the engine named wrong)
It has engine Viper 633-41 1540 kgf thrust with 1960 kgf afterburner
And it should have Viper 633-47 1814 kgf thrust with 2268 kgf
what it has
what it should have
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This video?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/1gzlqi3/iar93b_preview_video_armaments_xray/
Look at modifications, it’s stock.
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can it carry agm65 or its dead-on arrival
I think 9.3, just like G.91YS and J32B.
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Why would the lack of Mavericks be the thing that kills this plane?
Most CAS at and below 9.7 don’t get TV guided weapons.
Depending on the final flight model and AAMs I’d say 9.0.
If the IAR-93B ends up having great maneuverability and/or missiles that are better than AIM-9Bs I would agree with 9.3 though.
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I was hyped too, First High tier even vehicle for Italy. Ofc Gaijin had to ruin it
I mean, it’s not Gaijins fault that the IAR-93s real life specs are so mediocre.
They can adjust the BR and/or give it slightly better missiles (if there is at least a slither of evidence supporting the use R-60s or of the A-91 being better than stock R-3S), but at the end of the day it’ll still be a kinda mediocre plane.
Personally, I am excited for this one because it is at one of my favourite BR ranges and it isn’t yet another mainstream vehicle. (Though I still hope that there will be a tech tree variant of it)
Well, i think that Gaijin have made allowances for other planes and even allowed planes which never saw service in the game which may not have seen service at all perhaps due to also being mediocre. On this basis, they need to ensure that the plane is playable. At the moment, it’s probably one of the worst planes in the last dozen or so aerial events. I will still get the plane but will probably only play it a few times because it is so compromised at the moment.
Currently on live server it is 9.7.
Is it on live sever? I see no event notice or IAR-93 stat card following todays update. Still only the news items.
Regardless, 9.7 is too high, maybe they will tweak it down before the event actually starts on the 29th. If not it will be added to the list of ‘2 weeks play then hangered’
You just… do what always happens before events?
You load up game, click the wiki link for the vehicle, and it loads in the game and you can run test room. Its been this way since forever lol. I left the link earlier.
99% of the time gaijin upload the vehicle to the live server but have it hidden several days before the event.
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Why would Mavericks be added to a jet that didnt use them?
The Yugo J-22B Orao used them with a lot of documents and images to conclude this. However the Romanian IAR-93 only had access to Dumb bombs and rockets
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Because people can’t make difference between IAR 93 B and J 22 B …
Plane is ok as it is now but needs lower BR … 8.7 or 9.0, more realistic would be 9.0.
And it needs to get the 5 x 500 Kg bomb load.
R60s, countermeasures, Kh 23s, Mavericks are dreams and no 100% proof.
So those are the 2 things Gaijin needs to do with the current plane as it is played via Wiki :
- 9.0 BR
- 5 x 500 Kg
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Don’t forget:
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The missing quad bomb adapter (4 x 100 kg)
Which would mean 4 x 100kg per wing pylon, for a total of 16 x 100 kg bombs -
The 16 rockets pod launcher
(After looking through the data mine, they are available apparently) -
The option to double mount the 16 rocket pod launchers
A more funny way of having 32 rockets per pylon than using the 32 rocket pod launcher
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It’s not that people don’t know the difference between the J-22 and IAR-93, it’s that most English sites actually do list Mavericks, KH-23s and R-60s as armament options for the IAR-93B.
Plus, Romania had KH-23s, so it would seem plausible for them to have used those missiles on the IAR-93.
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