Get the IAR-93B in the Flight of the Vulture Event!

The problem comes in the fact that Romania did plane an upgrade package to incorporate the Romanian copy of the Kh23 as well as other avionics in the cockpit however it did not come to fruition due to cost and the IAR-93 being retired before it could happen

Documents on the internet seem to mirror that of the J-22 when there is articles about them both. They had different cockpits for example and different payload

These documents are decent on this however i do have the JNA manual on the J-22 and IJ-22

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Likely the usual joyful situation where 1 guy mistranslates/assumes and then all the sources quote source each other based on it.

Bovington is famous for doing that with tanks for example and because everyone just trusts them, nobody really questions it.

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If i had a shot for everytime someone did this then i would have liver poisoning by now

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A link that acts as a workaround isnt exactly Live Server, surely that just hidden data which WT is infamous for. Nothing should be considered 100% finished until its truly made Live.

If it goes (truly) Live at 9.7 as per the test the ongoing sentiment is DOA

@TheFlyingNoob I wonder how long until someone posts pages from the manual :^)

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You could get a Wikipedia sponsorship - payouts every time someone doent check actual references but assumes the text is accurate in eveyway.

The way I see it is if it doesn’t have a Manufacturer or Government stamp then i want to see the pictures!

I’ve search hard for AGM-65s and only found Yugoslav/Serbian. Unfortunately you cant eat wishes.

me too mate

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Plenty of documents and photos of mavs in Yugo service. Me IRL sitting here with a aircraft technician manual of the AGM-65B from 1988 in yugo service.

It basically goes down to what happens whenever there is a joint project between nations on something. They have different ideas of what to use the airframe for and due to the age it all gets merged into one by lazy wiki writers

Gaijin does sometimes allow for this kind of thing iirc right? One can dream ofc.

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Yeah but i disagree with them doing such as then you have more Paper Tigers in the game

Plenty of 'identical ’ aircraft in use by different nations have avionics or load changes. The IAR-93/J22 is really no different in that respect to its beefier lookalike the Jaguar whise British and French variants aren’t 100% copy paste.

The Romanians should get their specific variants and weapons. If that means no Mavs or other useful stuff so be it. It also swings both ways, if there are weapons and capabilities the J22 didn’t have access to that would be equally ok.

Whatever happens i hope Gaijjn makes sure the BR fits the plane rather than forcing the plane to fit the B.R (although experience means nothing is off the table)

Unless someone have forced gaijin to pick that plane for Italy yes, Is their fault.
They could have picked a more avanced Plane but no. Better give a F-14 with better missiles to the usa and this Flying turd to italy

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The Iar93 was introduced in service in 1975. At this rate it will end up fighting F86s which were introduced in 1949. Come on, how does this make any sense? I would rather not fight F86s in this thing. Gaijin should give it the max realistic loadout that it would have had in Romanian service if the Vultur ever saw combat. That includes R60 and flares in my view regardless of wether there are pictures to support it carrying those. If the launchers on the plane allow it, the Romanians would have used R60s because they had them. Are there pictures of the Yak 141 carrying all the loadouts in the game? No but Gaijin took into account, correctly in my view, what the plane would have had access to if it was ever in service and if it was ever used in battle.

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i mean the YAK141 doesnt even do that, if true it would have R73/R77. planes are balanced around their performance not what era they are in (example, alpha jets at 8.7 whilst F104 is 9.3)

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Im not sure I agree fully re the R77. The R77 came into service a few years after the Yak141 was cancelled so technically the early variants of the Yak would not have carried the R77.

Also the Alphajet can carry missiles but Gaijin decided not to give it missiles which in my view is wrong precisely because it ends up fighting F104 and F86s.

Versions in game are early IIRC, no? IE they are not for example the ICE program Alpha Jet which got missiles?

Well, what plane would you have chosen for Italy then?

I’m not sure about the Alpha Jets when it comes to their variants, but Gaijin did mention at some point that they weren’t putting missiles on the Alpha Jets we have in the game to keep their BRs as low as possible.

And while I would love Alpha Jets with missiles, the current ones probably will be the more enjoyable ones, as their flight model is a real treat at that BR

Well, the F-104A and C are under-BR’d af, but otherwise the Alpha Jets A and E are fine at their current BR tbh