Likely the usual joyful situation where 1 guy mistranslates/assumes and then all the sources quote source each other based on it.
Bovington is famous for doing that with tanks for example and because everyone just trusts them, nobody really questions it.
If i had a shot for everytime someone did this then i would have liver poisoning by now
me too mate
Plenty of documents and photos of mavs in Yugo service. Me IRL sitting here with a aircraft technician manual of the AGM-65B from 1988 in yugo service.
It basically goes down to what happens whenever there is a joint project between nations on something. They have different ideas of what to use the airframe for and due to the age it all gets merged into one by lazy wiki writers
Gaijin does sometimes allow for this kind of thing iirc right? One can dream ofc.
Yeah but i disagree with them doing such as then you have more Paper Tigers in the game
Unless someone have forced gaijin to pick that plane for Italy yes, Is their fault.
They could have picked a more avanced Plane but no. Better give a F-14 with better missiles to the usa and this Flying turd to italy
The Iar93 was introduced in service in 1975. At this rate it will end up fighting F86s which were introduced in 1949. Come on, how does this make any sense? I would rather not fight F86s in this thing. Gaijin should give it the max realistic loadout that it would have had in Romanian service if the Vultur ever saw combat. That includes R60 and flares in my view regardless of wether there are pictures to support it carrying those. If the launchers on the plane allow it, the Romanians would have used R60s because they had them. Are there pictures of the Yak 141 carrying all the loadouts in the game? No but Gaijin took into account, correctly in my view, what the plane would have had access to if it was ever in service and if it was ever used in battle.
i mean the YAK141 doesnt even do that, if true it would have R73/R77. planes are balanced around their performance not what era they are in (example, alpha jets at 8.7 whilst F104 is 9.3)
Im not sure I agree fully re the R77. The R77 came into service a few years after the Yak141 was cancelled so technically the early variants of the Yak would not have carried the R77.
Also the Alphajet can carry missiles but Gaijin decided not to give it missiles which in my view is wrong precisely because it ends up fighting F104 and F86s.
Versions in game are early IIRC, no? IE they are not for example the ICE program Alpha Jet which got missiles?
Well, what plane would you have chosen for Italy then?
I’m not sure about the Alpha Jets when it comes to their variants, but Gaijin did mention at some point that they weren’t putting missiles on the Alpha Jets we have in the game to keep their BRs as low as possible.
And while I would love Alpha Jets with missiles, the current ones probably will be the more enjoyable ones, as their flight model is a real treat at that BR
Well, the F-104A and C are under-BR’d af, but otherwise the Alpha Jets A and E are fine at their current BR tbh
I’m sure that between the italian, hungarian and romanian air forces the possibilities are enough
I think that the Alphajets with Aim9 or Magic 2s should go against A10 with Aim9s, and against Jags with Magic 2s and against Iar93s with R60s or R60ms because those are jets of the same era with similar purposes in mind. You’d have Mig21 or newer version of the F104 or a Mirage III thrown in the mix but not F84s and F86. Pitching a fighter jet from 1949 against a CAS plane from 1975 seems very odd. If you are in a Iar93 with your little R3S missiles and you face a Jag Gr1 or any Harrier or any A10 or any Mig 21…
Yeah but then you would need the Alpha Jet variant which had been upgraded for such AAM capability. Fortunatly this existed unlike the IAR-93 with its proposed life extension which would of had R-60 capability. But in that case there was another proposal to add a radar to it so it could fire R-73s so would you want that theoretical upgrade in game as well even though its just speculation
Not really, unless you are like me and want to see more advanced/jet trainers in the game.