Made to fire sabo rounds though
Not for that fast of a fire rate and
for such extensive periods of time though
Source?
“Максимально допустимый режим огня—100
выстрелов большим темпом, причем 50 выстрелов разрешается стрелять сплошной очередью, а остальные 50 выстрелов — короткими
очередями. После этого необходимо полное охлаждение ствола.”
I’m not saying it can’t fire APDS for that long, but I am saying it can’t fire anything for that long.
It’s lower rate of fire mode (200 - 300) is much more sustainable.
In-game it actually shoots for around 100 rounds before it has to cool down, which is roughly what the manual says, but I can’t see why they can’t add higher RPM for things like the Puma’s and KF41’s 30mm too.
Nice, you should make a bug report tbh
If you’re talking about the fact that the BMP-2 can’t really shoot at 550RPM for that long, I believe it’s already implemented since it currently has the cooldown mechanic after 100 rounds.
Though if you’re talking about the Puma / KF41’s guns not being able to shoot at a higher RPM, there are already threads and bug reports on it:
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Ah ok then, I don´t play much BMP at all so I forgot
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The Gepard cannot do so despite what some have claimed. The APDS on the 35mm guns are stored in a separate location alongside the weapon in limited quantity, as seen here.
The reason for this is fairly simple. When the 35mm fires APDS, it damages the barrel. If you were to load full belts of APDS, you would break your barrel quickly and constantly.
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Yes but there is nothing stopping it from loading APDS into the main belt xD
But ye it shreds the barrels
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If you want to break your guns within seconds, be my guest lol.
And the APHE is better anyway.
Agree, they should just give it to them to make the german mains shut up and make the guns like break after 2 bursts xD
I don’t really understand why they want to use more APDS. Just aim for cupolas with the default belt and melt any tank imaginable. I’ve even killed Maus’ with the 35mm Oerlikons.
Fr, They may have gotten killed by the falcon one to many times :p
The thing is, in WT we have selective realistic logic.
WW2 tank and in some cases aircraft can load entire vehicle full of super rare APCR (not that it makes sense), start the battle with 20% of ammo, prop planes take off with 13 minutes worth of fuel (nobody would do that) yet god forbid if you load Gepard with APDS, even though it is perfectly technically feasible.
I just don’t get it, really.
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Ye you can load it ig, just can´t shoot more then like 100 rounds of it
100 in a quick succession I assume, because there’s absolutely no way you’d wear out a barrel with 100 shots. If the round was THAT destructive, it wouldn’t be safe to fire even once.
Yes there is a way of you fire rounds not made for the barrel…
The HE and APHE belts are subsonic right?
Subsonic like in goddamn Brummbar? :D
My man, standard Gepard rounds are pushing almost 1200m/s. That’s Mach 3,5 basically
And APDS 35mm was clearly made for, you know, 35mm cannon.
KDA was one of several cannons that were made by the 35mm cannon project, KDA/KDB/KDE and others that differ only in feed style. And all of them are capable of shooting exact same APDS with no restrictions written on the officials. Either you use belt-fed, beltless, clips, none restricts of using APDSes with that amount. So my theoty is, its just because “they had specialized belts here and didnt carry more” which is exclusive for like, gepards, BMPs and OTOMATIC only. No other is crippled like that
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The barrel-wear with the TLD Type APDS-T was not a concern for gepard or any other KD-series platform.
What was actually affected a lot by firing sub-calibre ammunition was the V0 measuring base, which’s coils would wear out very quickly when firing said ammunition-type.
Said V0 measuring-base was replaced by an improved one with the NDV to Gepard A2 (1A2), where FAPDS (DM 33) was also introduced as the primary ammunition-type for anti-air & anti-armour purposes.
FAPDS had an even higher muzzle velocity than APDS-T (1440m/s vs 1385-1390m/s) and was fired in full belts. There were no changes to the barrels during the NDV or prior.
The sole reason for the TLD Type APDS-T not being used in full belts is that the regular rounds (i.e. HEI/HEI-T/APHEI-T) were simply much more effective against aircraft, whereas regular APDS had issues dealing comparable damage.
As far as I am aware, they were also cheaper during the introduction of Gepard, since they already had established production-lines since <1968, wheras APDS-T was introduced a bit later when it replaced the older APCR/HVAP round.
Aswell as the issue with the old V0 Measuring Base wearing out quickly ofc.
For reference, the regular ammunition (MSD [HEI], MLD [HEI-T], PLD [APHEI-T]) had muzzle-velocities of 1175m/s (@ +15°C) // 1180m/s (@ +21°C).
Edit: I checked the brochure again and it turns out that all ammunition-types had the same gas-pressure anyway… (MSD, MLD, PLD, TLD, ULD, UGD)
Max. gas pressure for all ammo-types (excluding FAPDS, I dont have figures for that specifically) was 3900kp/cm².
Ref.: “Oerlikon 35 mm Munition für die Maschinenkanonen Typen KDB, KDC und KDA” (1975)
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