with this two natiions need to do someting because in lot of BR have the lowest winrate in ground battles really no suffer huh? but the data teling the opposite…
What BR?
German teams on those mid br’s are complete trash…
So many just 1 tank spawning and gone.
Tbh around those BRs Germany does a full 180, from heavy armor to fast glass cannon. Most of the tank there is also pretty rough, no tt mbt with stab stabs, light tanks that are meh, and it only starts getting good past 9.0. Turm 3 spam doesn’t help either even tho it is a good, half the players just rush cap or think they’re unkillable and dies in the open. German mains (or any big 3 main) aren’t exactly smart either.
tldr: not many decent tank to play at that br compare to other nation, less handholding for beginner.
Most comments about them not suffering comes from the animosity of people who fight them at 12.0,
@Morvran as for the BR’s the main reason both do so poorly is because they play together. Germany is an iconic nation and lots of new players go there either because they hear its easy and brain dead (same with sweden for this) or because they are fans of Germanys tank designs. So you have a lot of new players who have no idea what they arw doing and as funny as it is to make fun of Germany they do have a learning curve, a good gun will only get you so far especially once you start getting to 6.7 and the hell that is the transition going from heavy tanks to paper thin glass cannons, its a huge learning curve to get past. Additionally Germany really lacks a F2P 8.7 or 8.3 lineup so your best lineup is 7.7 and 8.0 imo, and some of the 9.0 tanks are solid but the main line people go down is the Leos so the A1A1 can be rough. Id say Germany around the 9.x-10.7 area is only really fun if you have the numerous event vehicles that should’ve been TT imo, they could do with some additional vehicles imo around here so the jump to 12.0 isn’t so rough.
As for Sweden, they either lack SPAA, CAP, or a actually good lineup id say you only have like 3 actually worth while lineups out of these bunch thry are bold for the ones i recommend, (1.7, 2.7, 3.7, 5.0 [just for the Delat Torn] 8.0 [mid and the 103 are too map dependent and act like they are having a stroke to aim lol, not worth playing imo] 8.7 [its getting better but too map dependent unless you like a worse overtiered BMP-2 and the best Finnish vehicle and ifv until 10.3 [Leo Marksman], 10.7, and 12.0 [if you like Leos i guess, idc personally] )and they play with Germany a lot. Many people will flock to sweden cause of the Germany 2.0 meme and then leave when they get frustrated with the lack luster air tree or the learning curve with early swedish vehicles, APDS is a nightmare as its just shell shatter the game. Imo sweden gets better about 10.3 anything below that isn’t worth playing unless you’ve got premium vehicles or are a fan of the vehicles. Id saying essentially playing a glass cannon nation for most BR’s without any real way to counter aircraft makes grinding very frustrating. Hell the M24DK is still on my lineup until 8.7 as its the best SPAA lmao.
Id say people really just claim x nation is OP because of X outliers (turm 3, Sav 201248)or top tier but haven’t actually touched the tree.