I’m glad you accept the fact that Rheinmetall is a private firm and agree with me.
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ah, selective reading must be a bliss.
its a GERMAN firm. every export sale must go through the BUNDESTAG. they cant just sell stuff willy nilly.
but hey why dont we get smin in here and ask him if he can get clarification.
do you want to tag him or should i? cuz im very tried of arguing with you.
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Smin wont be here till monday. Which is necessary because we need time to increase engagement and vote count to have any chance at this working.
Gaijin likely already told him to stay away from this topic.
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Nobody is asking for the Hungarian KF41 to be added to the German tree there are at least 4-5 other versions they can add to Germany used by nations that don’t have a subtree in game.
Also, it has been established multiple times that it doesn’t matter if a nation didn’t use the vehicle in military service. What matters is that they built the vehicle, otherwise a good number of vehicles in every tree would have never been added to the game.
Germany has every right to get the KF41 plain and simple, and they should fix the damn PUMA as well.
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Just add the kf41 as the Lynx (p) to germany. Call it a differrent tank. And describe it as the prototype lynx.
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Or just give us the Aussie or even Hellenic Lynx’es, in fact now that Italy has Hungary, they’ve got no claim to Greece - whose army pretty much relies on Germany nowdays anyways, now we have a logical connection that nobody can dispute.
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Ajax for USA as well since General Dyanmics is an American company?
Surely you hold yourself to a consistent standard.
On a slightly unrelated note, I wonder if you support T-90M for USSR, a side-grade to T-80BVM.
I would be all for that heck give Germany the prototype kf31 and the Greek kf41 and I’ll be happy that’s all we’re asking for anyway people coming on here saying we can’t have a kf41 have no logical reason to even be denying us this.
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made as an export alternative to the PUMA for EVERYONE who is interessted, including germany should the need arise, see JTFC debacle.
The Ajax is a British designed IFV designed by the British for the British By General Dynamics UK the US has nothing to do with it outside of GDUK being a Subsidiary to GD. Your the one with no consistency here.
Also I could care less if the T-90M is added, it’s worse than the BVM in every way outside of looking nice and having a CITV. It would make a nice backup for my T-72B3 and BVM though I guess
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General Dynamics is an American company. GD UK is just a UK location of General Dynamics.
Just as Hungarian locations for Rheinmetall are still Rheinmetall.
Calm down with the insults, no one’s being hostile toward you.
@el_Argentino
Show us where the Argentine tech/sub tree is.
Show us what nations put into service Radkampfwagen 90 & Begleit… oh wait, none did, which defaults to the country whose industry prototyped the vehicle.
Show us evidence that Hungary is not a sub-tree in WT… oh wait, it is.
The difference is obvious.
Remember when all Italian aircraft were removed from Germany’s tech tree? I do.
Australia: nation not in game (lost out to AS21 Redback)
nation not in game (Greece)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1060606270765289524/1147725075794112593/image.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1060606270765289524/1147725292245364886/E3stI0iVkAAN9QK.jpg
KF31 not use by anyone
Spike Testbed KF41 (Tech Demonstrator)
none of these are have their nations ingame as a subtree or are serial production vehiecles… whats wrong with these?
i cant wait for your oh so enlightening answer
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You:
General Dynamics is an American company. GD UK is just a UK location of General Dynamics.
Danzig:
designed by the British for the British By General Dynamics UK the US has nothing to do with it outside of GDUK being a Subsidiary to GD
you both are stating the same thing
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It’s just a meme to the ridiculous discussion they’re having here.
It’s totally RIDICULOUS after seeing that: Japan receives an F-16; Sweden receives Mi28 and T80U; UK receives T-90S; Germany gets a Hunter; USA receives RAM Mk.2; France receives a kurassier; USSR receives Czech trucks; etc; etc Whats Next? Israel receiving Altay?
Stop this ridiculous pointless discussion.
Nothing makes sense, avoid arguments of double standards or those of a colonialist type or those of cultural proximity. No matter what they say, Gaijin does what he wants and feels that he shouldn’t tell us his plans and we continue to pay and finance this prank. END.
I already said that I don’t care if Lynx is in the German TT or not. What good is it if we couldn’t even get the PUMA yet. That’s why I have no illusions. For the rest, for the people who want KF41 in the German TT, that they know that there is no valid argument to maintain that Germany cannot receive it.
It is a vehicle designed by the UK by a Subsidiary based in the UK for the UK’s military the US never laid their hands on it nor showed any interest in it whatsoever.
The KF41 on the otherhand is a German Designed vehicle built in Germany that has been tested by Germany that has also been offered for export to several different countries and has several Variants.
Thes are two completely different scenarios, and as I stated before, nobody is asking for the Hungarian KF41 to be added to Germany, there are plenty of other variants of it that they can get even including the Australian one since that variant lost to the AS-21 Redback in trial.
And no I am not insulting you, but the fact that I have to explain this to you really says something, your just insecure and the fact that you are reaching this much to win an argument really shows it.
It all makes sense when you understand the rules of additions Gaijin uses.
Prototypes & production only.
Trialed for tech trees [not sub-trees; at least not yet].
In-service by in-game tech/sub-tree.
Prototyped by in-game tech tree.
If service country is in-game as a sub or tech tree: Add to service country.
If service country is not in-game as a sub or tech tree: Add to country that is in one of two options:
1: A fit for the nation. Swiss & German.
2: Original manufacturing country: M1A1.
I’m not here to be mean. I’m here to provide this information. I don’t state my opinion on their rules, as honestly it’s Gaijin’s ruleset, not mine.
All I care about is understanding it so I can better predict where vehicles can go.
To address bad examples. RAM Mk2 was added to the game before Britain was.
T-90S’s original manufacturing country is India, which isn’t in the game.
Japan received a demonstration vehicle, which has a working prototype.
Mi-28 & T-80U were officially trialed.
If Turkey is a sub-tree, then it’d likely be for Israel, that’s also a bad example since those are close military trade partners.
Kurassier: Austria’s not a tech/sub-tree, and the FCS is still French.
One final point, whenever Germany gets a meta vehicle, people yell “Germany suffers” in an unironic form and it gets annoying.
Yeah, I read enough.
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Are you inventing these rules? Or did you get them from a gaijin user manual?
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Answer:
A) How T-90S is useful to UK? UK needs something else, everything but another top tier MBT
that brings us to B)
B) Why T-90S is not in the Soviet tree?
T-90S isn’t top-BR, and T-90S isn’t in-use by the Soviet Union or Russia. Soviet Union already has the base platform of all T-90S: T-90A.
The specific one we’re getting is an Indian T-90S.
And no, these rules are from Gaijin itself and behavioral observations.
3: If the manufacturing country is not in the game, it goes to the country that developed the technology. After all, they are national tech trees.
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