Germany no longer serves in the top tier

[NER055]

@kitchkitch26

All Leapords with spall liner and best armor?

1 leo with spall liner = meta. Another 3 have it only on roof

[NER055]

1 really good tank. And no normal aviation. Many abrams with 5 sec reload and good aviation. Hm

[Miraz05]

@NER055

5 sec reload

With Ace crew.

[Vamilad]

Gaijin adding the PUMA originally at 8.3 then never adding its spike version despite now even having the Namer modeled is definitely a choice.

[NER055]

6 sec for other. With current fix all leos (except 2a7v) killed in front upper plate well.

[NER055]

year at least for puma. And 4 updates from this:

@Stona_WT

First, we’d like to let you know that we plan to introduce the KF41 in the upcoming “Sons of Attila” major update for Hungary as they are the first (and currently only) operator of the vehicle. Its addition to the Hungarian line does not entirely rule out its future addition to the game in other forms, but for the Sons of Attilla update there are no plans to introduce a KF41 for Germany. The version coming to the game is the unique serial production for Hungary specifically. Germany still has a lot of potential vehicles left to add, with the possibility of some KF variants down the line. The main reason for its introduction this update is to be the main top of the line vehicle for the Hungarian subtree, as it’s a unique production vehicle for them. The PUMA variant with Spikes is not the current model we have in game, and is again something that’s possible in the future for Germany.

[kitchkitch26]

We’re still talking about the most armored tanks in the game

[ElkByte]

@lean12450

the 2a7 suddenly has itali too

Italy ONLY has the 2A7HU of worth. We have the 2A7V, PSO, 2A6, 2A5. Give them some a crumble.

[ElkByte]

@kitchkitch26

All Leapords with spall liner and best armor

That, I disagree. The 122s are completely superior on this regard.

@kitchkitch26

Flarakk got a major buff to its missile a few patches ago?

The flakrakrad is the weakest SPAA at 11.7, and it isn’t even close.

[Thodin]

2A7V with spall liners which arent lining spall. One shot to the side and all turret crew dead. Same as with all other Leopard 2…wounder where the upgrade over the other Leopard 2 is.

[lean12450]

except 2a7 the others do not have shielding

[ElkByte]

They do, though - at the turret.
And even so, that barely matters when Italy has to rock the Ariete. Find me a single spot on that tank that isn’t pennable by DM53.

[lean12450]

and one shot and that’s it

[ElkByte]

…So is every spall liner in-game? Your point being?

[lean12450]

It doesn’t matter, it’s more or less the same

[ElkByte]

It’s DEFINITELY not the same, lmao. Have you ever taken a look at Ariete’s armor? 3MB16 can probably pen that turret cheek. That’s how crap that armor is.

[lean12450]

Yes, I have seen it and I don’t disagree with you on that, but the leopards 2 are not as they should be this time.

[ElkByte]

And how, pray tell, is that? They’re plenty strong and far, far better than any tank Italy has to offer - natively. Their best tank is not even theirs.
Germany remains to be, at very least, top 3 in ground

[Catnip007]

German cope never ends lol

Just because you had moderately good tanks 80yrs ago doesnt mean you will still be good today. How is that hard to process???

You still have the best MBT in the game, and the first nation to get FnF missiles, stop whining.

[Zyranovos]

The Leo 2A7V is one of the best tanks in game…

I think it’s just you, take some more copium.