All 3 nations should get Typhoon at the same time. It is stupid and unfair to expect Italy and Britain to miss out on their principle top tier fighter, just because they both have gotten Gripens from a Sub-TT.
Im guessing all 3 will get a DA Typhoon, but im guessing they will be indentical and be essentially an amalgam of different DA aircraft. either that or they will skip straight to the full production Typhoon at about 13.3 ish.
Stats from where?
No official data is provided and thunderskill is horrendously bad. It only records something like 2% of matches
I saw plenty of Mig-29Gs last year
How is it “horrendously bad”?
Well, I saw even “plentier” SMTs and Su27s.
Besides, 2% is just some Reddit guy estimation, based on all sortsa assumptions some of which, I KNOW, are wrong, so it may easily be triple or quadruple that and then we’re within election polling sample eg. that usually comes up right.
It’s barely a tiny snapshot of current matches and data.
its also stupid and unfair that one nation misses out on a 4th gen Fox-3 carrier, yet here we are.
Or to put it differently, its their turn to wait
Yes, it is Germany’s turn to wait.
Try fighting Mig-29s or Mig-29Gs in the Tornado F3 or Viggen D. It was not fun.
ICE at least has equal weapons to everyone else at top tier. Im doing just fine in the Sea Harrier FA2 vs Su-27s and Mig-29s. ICE should be laughing at the moment.
Well yeah, but J11a does have higher BR
Now imagine fighting any gen 4’s in a phantom
try fighting MiG-23MLDs and F-4Js in a MiG-21Bis, not fun either.
Germany was costantly behind, but it seems everyone forgets that because recently it was only by one patch instead like a year
Try fighting the FGR 2 in the F-104G… oh wait, we had to and it wasn’t fun for us either. How about the time we only had normal R-60s against your PD guided Sparrows? Lol.
The “it’s your turn to wait” isn’t even remotely applicable here and honestly it’s hypocritical considering UK pre MiG-23MLA was far better off than Germany.
Imagine fighting any Gen 4 in the Sea Harrier a 9.7 airframe
Try fighting Mig-23MLA in the Phantom FGR2.
You have aim 120’s lmafo, it should be very easy.
The point is. Germany typically has to wait 1 maybe 2 updates to get a decent new top tier aircraft.
Im suspecting Germany will get something new maybe September or October. Worse case scenario. December.
Britain has had consistant gaps of maybe a year between new top tier aircraft. The Last time Britain was actually top tier before the Gripen was when the Hunter F6 was top tier. Phantom FGR2 had its moments. But has been chronically underpowered since the Mig-23MLD was added end of 2022 and didnt get replaced until the same update that Germany got the Mig-29 in which we got hte Tornado F3, which was so unplayable that I dont actually consider it was added until June 2023. A full year after the F-14A and 18 months after the Mig-23MLD.
Yes, “who suffers most” is a stupid argument. But Germany is not suffering that badly this update. F-4F ICE is a useable airframe, with weapons equal to the competition.
So does the F4F ICE
So 9/10 nations have to wait for something new for a year its fine. Germany has to wait 3 months and its call in the national guard?
You have the F4F-ICE. Use it.
No they don’t. You, as a UK main, could argue for something better in your TT and I’d even stand by your side, as a player, but what you’re doing now (GJ’s dirty work) is disgusting.
We had this exact same discussion before
MiG-21MF vs 21bis was for 11 months
bis-SAU vs MLD was for another 5 months
MLA came the same patch as F-14
ONLY the MiG-29s were any sort of timely
How am I?
I’ve been asking for the Typhoon since September last year. when Britain had 11.3s to fight 12.3 aircraft.
I want Germany, Italy and Britain to get the Typhoon ASAP. Ideally September, in reality probably December alongside the Rafale in an update dedicated to those nations. A proper Euro-Delta update.
I dont want any one nation to get it first.
heck i’ve even been advocating for Germany to get PGMs and BOL rails on their Tornado IDS even though there is 0 evidence that Germany used either on their Tornado IDS.
And since the Hunter F6, only the Gripen was timely. Remember the ENTIRE time you were getting new aircraft. Britain was just getting upgrades for the FGR2. We literally didnt get a new top tier aircraft from 2019 till 2023 in which we got an aircraft 0.7 BR lower than everyone else.
We had a brief moment of fun in the Harrier Gr7 till they nerfed Aim-9ls into the ground and over BRed the airframe