Germany needed Early Eurofighter now. or at least Polish or Dutch F16s

I’m sure it was good, but it seems pretty comparable to the an/apg 65 for the most part

That’s a bit of a stretch, probably marketing.

Except for the Rafale one you are probably right about that, the French were flexing a 200km range for the upgraded version, and it’s probably against a target more than 1m^2

In an alternative reality.

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Ok then, lets add the eurofighter to the nation that arguably almost ruined it first, germany had no part in the development of the Mig-29, whilst both britain and italy helped make the eurofighter

If the eurofighter was to come to anyone first (it shouldn’t, it should come to all 3) it would be britain because one, they paid for the most of the development and without britain it would never had been a thing, Germany several times hindered the project going as far as trying to commit corporate sabotage to delay the project

Do you have to play vehicles to know what the Meta is now? Well i guess i cant say the F-16 was meta because i havdnt played it, the 109s are good, the 190s devastate in a head on, the 262s admittedly suffer a bit but the Sabres again are pretty good, so is the Mig-15 then the Mig 21 and finally the Mig-29, be patient

As i have said, be patient, other nations have jad to deal with sub-meta aircraft at top teir, just deal with it for a while until you either get the Eurofighter

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Here it also states that it can carry R77s, is it true…?

Oh wow, I wonder what the mig 29g is, worse performance than the gripen, 6 pylons, no ground loadout, radar is meh.

What missile will it get, different ones for each nation or did they develop a missile for Eurofighter

To be honest, the J11A is similar, 1 data link, almost worst radar in BR (N001) and 0 CAS capabilities. They just said N001 can launch R77s but did not even differ the radar or avionics from original J11/Su27SK. The Fox 3s are nerfed by its radar so it’s not like Mig29G is the only one suffering.

The Hunter is originally British and still in the German tech tree

Ofc you do.
Your top GER plane is 4.0.
How could you possible know what happens in GER jets…(it’s a rhetorical question)

Guys, play ICE, it’s good

It was comparable to AN/ApG-73 but in a smaller package irl

Ok, thx

People I know, videos, stats playing against them, there are plenty of ways to know the meta, also the fact the most recently the Top tier meta was F16 Vs Mig-29 and Germany had a Mig-29 and the Mig-29G which outperformed the SMT slightly.

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No, it wasn’t.
The EC8 eg. was most populated by Su27/J11s on WP and F16 on NATO side.
You see, you comment on stuff you know nothing about.

I meant before that, I forgot that AMRAAMs are the new meta, sorry

It still doesnt distract from the fact that germany almost always has a Top Tier aircraft maybe an update update behind the US/USSR, but they at least get top tiers, Again i will bring up the fact that for over a year Britains best aircraft was an 11.7 attacker and Sweden was stuck with the JA-37D at 11.7 for a full year, Sure the ICE isnt great, but it is Germanys turn to wait, the Eurofighter would be minimum 13.0 assuming the DA airframes get added, and there is no reason for it to go to germany or any nation before the others

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Only in case of the MiG-29s;

  • F-4F was added a year after the F-4E
  • MiG-23MLA was added ~9 months after the MLD
  • MiG-21Bis was added a whole year after the Russian one

The last time (i.e before 29s) Germany had received a meta worthy jet within a reasonable time period had been the MiG-21MF over 3 years ago.

Between the MF and the MiG-29s, Germany had consistently been on average 6 - 12 months late to the party.

Sure the ICE isnt great, but it is Germanys turn to wait

Considering Germany has always been the one to wait for up to date additions if you refer to what I’ve written above. In the last ~5 years, we didn’t have to “wait” for something only once (MiG-21MF) and only a short while twice (MiG-29s) - everything else had required the utmost of patience from us.

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I am talking about prior to Seek and Destroy.
(this is the last month stats from Thunderskill)
Top table is for RB and bottom for SB.

So, how was ANY Mig29 “meta”, let alone a GER one?

The GER still waits for the >25hp on DB605DB, twelve years later.
Also, GER doesn’t need to get EuFi, but some kinda GEN4 Fox3 capable fighter would be in order.
It’s not being greedy, it’s asking for a competent plane for the top tier, where meta now shifts considerably with ARH introduction.

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Mig 29G gets no fox 3’s, has 2 r27s and a 4 r73s, it is in a much worse state than the j11a is, also take into note that it doesnt have much countermeasure