Germany Has Been Left Behind – Leopard Armor, Missing 2A8 and the Decline of German Players

You currently have the 2nd best tank in game, after having the 1st best tank for many patches, and now you want the 1st best tank in the game again? Consider using logic.

arguably the Strv122 always were better, now since they got DM53 they definitly are.
The addtion of turret basket purely for abrams and leos were quiite the nerves as well
And the Leo backside aiming were all considerable nerves too

Depending on it, it could be abrams sep 3 first place,
Strv122 2nd then maybe leo2a7V on the 3rd.
Then there is the problem of germany only having 1 armored leopard while sweden got 3.

And generaly people need to stop putting 2a7V and strv122 as the same tank

yes, ARGUABLY, there are lots that would say otherwise, so the 2a7 was tied best for its duration of its meta. Even RIGHT NOW you could still claim the 2a7 and strv122 are only a teensy tiny bit worse than the abrams.

Either way, Germany doesn’t Need a 2a8 in any regard

and still is the most likely addition, since germany as well as sweden are ripe for new additions

And it will be unneeded and overpowered, congratulations germany for earning another pointless addition

Not a 12.7

explain to me again how its overpowered, they get an aps and lws.
You guys are hugely overestimating its capabilities

YOU do not know how gaijin will implement it.

but you clearly do , with all your briliant leopard knowledge lol.

There is absolutly no mention for it to have armor upgrades to the 2a7V.
Its literaly only aps and lws, thats it. You are crying wolf, without having any idea about the tank in the first place

What I DO know is that germany does not need yet ANOTHER power creep upwards pushing the game even further into the abyss at 12.7 by constantly trying to one up every other nation. 2A7 is in a GREAT spot right now and is a GREAT tank.

again explain the powercreep to me.

The relevant upgrades mostly are against CAS and the occasional missle carrier.
It does not influence tank vs tank comabt, besides nowing if you got lasered, to maybe emergency dodge/smoke
You have no idea what you talking about and again.
Germany has 1 armored tank,. sweden 3

I take it you are against the addition of the embt 2022 as well,
Frenchs only chance at a decent APS tank

Because lets face it, the XLR wont do anything for france at this point

It’s 12.3 not 12.7 but still end of the line vehicle.

Zero logic to come to this conclusion, zero relation

You sure?
Explain to me what the EMBT2022 is will ya

Why would I have to explain to you what the tank is for me to tell you that there is no logic between the two statements, completely unrelated.

Germany would get the EMBT 2022 as well.
The EMBT 2022 is a fusion of the 2a7V chassis, with a modiffied leclerc turret…
The EMBT 2022 is at the same lvl as the 2a8.
You are arguing germany shouldnt get sth meta changing.
This results in france getting no new mbt either

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You are named Normandy Corsair, so it wasnt to far of, add to that that your most tech tree experience is either abrams or leclercs,
And i take out of this that you just dont US to lose dominance then apparantly.

Fact stands, cause of your salty anti germany behaviour you are blocking 3 nation from getting new tanks.

While still not being able to explain

its an lws and aps

Sure the m1a2 throphy is sooo much better then the normal sepv2 (important sarcasm)

Lmao? I don’t want any nation continuously doing leap frog meta at 12.7. The game needs massive BR decompression. Quit thinking that people have ulterior motives just because they disagree with you. It’s both insulting to me as well as makes you look worse than you should. If it isn’t obvious by now, and it may not be going by your previous comments, I didn’t support adding the new abrams to 12.7 either. I also don’t support the current 12.0 abrams staying where they are at, as they are effectively better tanks even in top tier than the Leclercs.

try asking people for their opinion instead of guessing and insulting them

i mean, you still arent able to explain what about the 2a8 is leapfrogging, when it does not touch the tank vs tank aspect at all

leo 2 arc 3.0 or kf51 i would agree, but seriously the 2a8?

No new armor, no new rounds, slower speed cause of the weight