Germany Has Been Left Behind – Leopard Armor, Missing 2A8 and the Decline of German Players

The 2A4 has so much room to be better, playing it feels so awful right now.

france can always be added afterwards, just like it was with the 2a7HU.

The addition of the 2a8 now for sweden and germany is completly possible.
And the best option for gajin to feed 2 nations at once

One of those 2 nations clearly doesn’t need it (cough sweden).

Hence we return to my point of you just using France as a mask/shield.

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but then we are at the point again, they need to do sth wortwhile for sweden.
They already blue balled heli wise and left behind.
Now they are supposed to lose out on the aps mbts as well?

Theoreticaly they can get the Strv123A now, but its development easily can still need half a year as well.
With the speed gajin normaly adds mbts its 2-3 years.
If they get the 2a8 next year then, we are at the point again as well, where they got a realy strengthend armored line up.

well no, just my opinion cause swedens heli problem for one

haha no, lets add another OP vehicle/missile into russian tree that will completely ruin toptier.

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i just want a 5.2-5.5 second reload on the 2a7 and other 120MM leos at 12.3 or higher

Just say u want invincible leopard where u can just hold W and eat shots

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“germany has been left behind” lol lmao even

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which is weaker than the 2A7V because it doesn’t have the hull armor

I think the Leopard 2 should get a 5-second reload like other NATO tanks.

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5.5 just cuz of DM53

829a2/a3 is stronger than l44dm53, and the improvement from l55dm53 is far from worth 5.5s

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A2 is stronger by only 6mm and A3 works 50/50 of the time u shoot Kontakt-5, L44 cannons should get 5s but L55 5.5s

2A5, 2A6 and PSO? Maybe, or even probably.

2A7s, Strv 122s and 2A4? Absolutely not.

Brother forgot the Ariete.

You currently have the 2nd best tank in game, after having the 1st best tank for many patches, and now you want the 1st best tank in the game again? Consider using logic.

arguably the Strv122 always were better, now since they got DM53 they definitly are.
The addtion of turret basket purely for abrams and leos were quiite the nerves as well
And the Leo backside aiming were all considerable nerves too

Depending on it, it could be abrams sep 3 first place,
Strv122 2nd then maybe leo2a7V on the 3rd.
Then there is the problem of germany only having 1 armored leopard while sweden got 3.

And generaly people need to stop putting 2a7V and strv122 as the same tank

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yes, ARGUABLY, there are lots that would say otherwise, so the 2a7 was tied best for its duration of its meta. Even RIGHT NOW you could still claim the 2a7 and strv122 are only a teensy tiny bit worse than the abrams.

Either way, Germany doesn’t Need a 2a8 in any regard

and still is the most likely addition, since germany as well as sweden are ripe for new additions

And it will be unneeded and overpowered, congratulations germany for earning another pointless addition