Is that like a 109 airframe mixed with a 190?
Brand new design
Ohhhh ok
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I recommend this book to anyone interested in Messerschmitt and Luftwaffe
What book?
MESSERSCHMITT ME 309 DEVELOPMENT & POLITICS | Mortons Books
The Me 309 was faster, worse to climb than the Bf 109G. But the Me 309 was at the beginning, whereas the 109 was at the end of its potential and perfectly established
Interesting.
https://www.amazon.com/Control-Windows-High-End-Throttle-Gaming-Console/dp/B0CFFXKVBT
We can gets premium Bf 109 G-2 in German TT again if you gets HOTAS from HORI.
I don’t see any numbers.
Sry man - i missed this part somehow, sry for that.
I am not sure if you got my main point of the prop pitch issue with 109s:
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You can use the same engines in other aircraft and fly them with infinite WEP (= the whole match without overheating) - but this is only possible if you are able to limit the power output via prop pitch whilst having the rads on manual control.
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The sole purpose of this exercise is to find a setting for infinite WEP with the lowest drag whilst using the maximum power output. So if you are open your rads too much you are too slow, so the additional power of WEP is sacrificed by higher drag.
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Limiting the prop pitch at full power (= WEP) is usually way more effective to find a “set & forget” setting with the lowest drag but with the highest sustainable power output.
But, you can’t use this in 109s if you can’t adjust the prop pitch below 100% whilst using WEP - you kill your engine.
Having denied this option by gaijin is imho a major disadvantage for 109 pilots - and as written in another thread - killing your engine with full WEPping a whole match is not backed by reality.
It boils down that this is just an arbitrary nerf of 109s to protect USSR & US hardware.
That the same engines are fine outside German planes can be proven by 2 examples (+ a bonus):
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U can fly the J 21a with the DB 605 engine with 75% prop pitch and 50% on both rads with infinite WEP
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U can fly the SM 92 with 2 DB 605 engines with 75/80/85% prop pitch (Hot/Medium/Cold maps) and 50% on both rads with infinite WEP
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Bonus: The B-18B with 2 DB 605 engines don’t need prop pitch adjustments - you can fly it with infinite WEP just with both rads at 50%…
Jeez $500 for a 109??? That’s crazy…
- 500USD for HOTAS with 3 prem props.
Calculated or what they measured on prototypes (different engine power and weight settings).
Calculated performance, August 1941, DB 603A engine
Height/speed
0 - 625 km/h
2 - 680 km/h
4 - 740 km/h
7 - 785 km/h
The performance measured on various prototypes, often with lower engine power or the radiator extended and fixed, showed that the speed was about 30-50 Km/h higher than the 1943 Bf 109G.
Climb rate was 10% lower, but the aircraft had about three times the armour protection of the Luftwaffe standard and far more powerful armament than the Bf 109.
The Me 309 was not accepted into service because of Messerschmitt’s policy ( they supported the Me 209), problems in the Reich with the DB 603 engines, and the need to produce established aircraft instead of developing new aircraft.
You sure? I’m pretty sure you could fly it with reduced prop pitch at 55-60%. I’d have to test it myself.
WEP time limits were entirely down to high temperatures, and the whatever minute limitations are reset after temperatures stabilize. IL2 and DCS love their oven timer engines.
You kill your engine as soon as you have higher PP rates. So no infinite WEP like with a P-51 C with 100% PP rads at 80%…Did a testflight in F-4 a few minutes ago…
Too bad you don’t write, is it all about Me 309 ? You want some more?