Germany 9.0 useless

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Probably one of the worst performing br I’ve ever played, 80% of the time they are completely hopeless, it’s not like their tank sucks, the A1A1 and TAM are pretty decent vehicles but the team just getting crushed like ants every time, thought it was just bad days but nope, every single time they sucks to play lol I’m at 30% winning rate, either you drop nuke every game else don’t bother thinking about winning any matches.

So, whose fault?

  • Germain mains
  • Leo A1A1 useless
  • TAM useless
  • Useless Teams
  • OP useless, can’t carry and can’t drop nuke every matches
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Id add “compression issue”.

TAM argaubly is 9.0 since its flat out better than A1A1 bar armor (but that exactly inst high benchmark).

But A1A1 at 9.0 is travesty.

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9.0 isn’t just the only BR that you find this problem. German mains tend to be blind or don’t bother to use there ears to listen to oncoming traffic.

At lower Tier’s German mains still beleive there Tiger 1/2 armour will keep them safe and just face plant into the enemy.
At higher tier’s they think there Leo’s are unkillable and race around like its the Grand Prix often ignoring tanks right beside them.

There win rate at 9.3 - 11.3 should be increasing alot since they seem to always be teamed up with RU and the new BMPT’s who are currently enjoying a very nice win %, at least from my experence grinding and spading the Ajax and grinding the M10.

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Having 105mm sabot and laser at such low br. Its skill issue.

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Been playing 6.7 Germany again with a friend and I was quickly reminded why I stopped, the tanks a great, but the players… SO BAD! They will just sit 200m from an empty enemy cap point in their heavy tank just looking at it refusing to cap it. Or watch you get disabled by an IS-2 and sit there staring at it until it reloads, kills you, reloads again… then they push it and die too. Now this is by no means unique to Germany, but they certainly take it to a whole new level.
9.0 is extra bad due to the transition from heavily armoured slower tanks to light, fast flankers, so you have a large learning curve for the new playstyle on top of the underlying skill issues.

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No, Germany doesn’t have the best arsenal in that br bracket, certainly not the earliest to have the best FCS. Israel has DM23 at 8.0, while Germany best ammuntion at 8.0 still APDS from Leopard 1, at 8.3 they have the TURM III with superior optics and reload and that’s about it, while at the same br the British has Centurion with DM23 and LRF, Chinese also has a modified T-54 variant with DM23 and also LRF, both are fulyl stabilized while Germany left with a M48 with DM23 without stabilizer and only normal range finder module. At 9.0 only TAM has LRF while A1A1 only has range finder. Pretty much everyone else at 9.0 has LRF on their mbts but not Germany. While A1A1 has one of the best optical zooms which is about twice as much zoom compare to most things it face, which can be further compensated by using custom sight to offset the lack of laser range finder, maybe use the one that has the range value located at the center of the sight.

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Is absolutely horrible, in general the Leopard 1s are pretty bad. People saying otherwise either didn’t play them, didn’t play them for a long time, or are lying.

Germany until 9.3 where they get some tanks that can survive 35mm Oerlikons gets absolutely dumpstered by two things. Map design and auto cannons that benefit from their non existent ammo.

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I find it to be pretty decent, currently closing 4.0KD but my playstyle doesn’t help me win matches as you need to create map pressure to carry our average team. It’s sucks to play any other way because of how common the autocannons are which easily pens it anywhere, I have a lot of deaths by M246 and that cancerous Swedish Gepard clone, while I fully utilize the 15.9x superior gunner sight to pick off targets one by one, before they even have time to react. So if you sit back and snipe, the A1A1 is more superior than the 1A5 because of the gunner sight, if you have issues with sniping then I suggest you get a custom sight with the range values located in the middle, it eliminates the need to laser range find. I do die pretty much every match when I decided to do objective, else the KD will reach 5.0

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mixture of german mains and therefore useless teams as they are german mains alongside typical BR compression.

Germany has a competent set of lineups pretty much everywhere and has as large selection of the most OP and annoying vehicles in the game as the americans and russians.

Even with well placed vehicles like the leopard 1s you cant balance the player. they will make things over and underperform in unpredictable ways

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I’m honestly not sure if you’re trolling or or have some weird hate boner for certain nations players.

The Leopard 1 is a good example, the tank in general is not good. It’s a pretty shitty tank in WT at least. A good player can make it work, but that doesn’t make it a good tank. Germany has a ton of terrible tanks post WW2 all the way to 9.3+.

And in general, their CAS and CAP kinda stinks.

From my experience since I started spading Japan the only difference between the more played nation is how easy their vehicles are to effectively use. Skill floor matters more than skill cap, same for planes.

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no. Ive just played for more than enough to see how players are.

its fast, agile and has an incredible gun for the BR. generally speaking if youre not making it work its a skill issue.

like turm 3 and pzh2000?

dont make me laugh germany gets the best of NATO and Warsaw pact. the “germany has no CAS” rhetoric is nothing more than a meme when you have solid bombers and impeccable fighters.

yea. its why you get 4.3 worthy mediums at 3.3 in germany. the players are being filtered by other players using inferior vehicles all the time

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I would say it’s less a Germany 9.0 issue, rather USSR/China having one of their strongest lineups at 9.0 (even stronger right now with people spamming Object279 during the event). China is jacked with good MBT (+ TTS being given DM33 this year) and fantastic support vehicles. I’d personally only want to face them with Britain 9.0 (Chieftain Mk.10). For Germany, I’m sitting out until 9.3-9.7 (9.7 for Beglite).

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Define incredible gun.

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the L7 105mm.

an objectively insane gun for 8.0

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sure, its good gun, but its not like ther arent 12 other 8.0 tanks equipped with it (14 if we count the Strv103 gun) (assuming im counting right). Ergo defining Leo 1 by its gun kinda doesnt make sense.

and its not like the niche of “fast 105mm L7 equipped tank” is occupied solely by Leo 1, theres also OF40 which is only slightly slower with tradeoff being a laser range finder (theres also italian leo 1A2 but eh, its still Leo 1 so who cares).

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no. Ive just played for more than enough to see how players are.

You’ve basically never played Germany, only Britain. And after playing and spading more and more of Japan. German stuff is nowhere near as good as you pretend it is. The Leos are a prime example of that.

its fast, agile and has an incredible gun for the BR. generally speaking if youre not making it work its a skill issue.

It’s a medium tank, with medium tank speed and mobility and the armor of a light tank. The first one doesn’t even get a stabilizer. What in the world are you talking about? This sounds like you’re just throwing things out there.

like turm 3 and pzh2000?

A glass cannon and a HE slinger. Both pretty good. Op? Absolutely not. And hey, you conveniently ignore the RakJak, RakJak 2, Luchs, Marder, Wiesel, Jaguar 2, etc. Some who are “funny”, but none who are any good. Couple this with Leopard 1s, who were one of the biggest design fails in tank history under the false presumption that HEAT-FS would make armor moot and the line ups are super light vehicles with questionable fire power for the most part and an MBT that’s basically a light tank.

The best parts of their tree is the non German tanks.

dont make me laugh germany gets the best of NATO and Warsaw pact. the “germany has no CAS” rhetoric is nothing more than a meme when you have solid bombers and impeccable fighters.

Aside from the Alpha Jet. Which is decent. Which good “bombers and fighters” does Germany have exactly?

yea. its why you get 4.3 worthy mediums at 3.3 in germany. the players are being filtered by other players using inferior vehicles all the time

Oh god, Panzers. Some of the most overrated hunks of junk out there. Who have a singular good point, their big guns. And aside from that can be easily penned be frigging reserve tier tanks. Have shitty mobility, non existent armor, no reverse gear, etc.

You appear to have a weird hate boner for German hardware?