Germany 7.7-8.0 Opinions

It is ass and only will get worse till you get a small high at arround 9.3 when it goes down again.
Do your self a favor and play a different nation

Like worst 8.0 tank though

It… something at least ig. the automat is good though

Absolutely not!

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I love the M48C and G in the german TT

you just have to hold through til you have the HEAT-FS round

It’s not though. It’s a solid tank. Not near insanely broken things like TO-55, but solid.

Yeah it’s hot garbage, that’s why i said it’s not even worth paying attention to.

let me ask you like that, what is worse then the leo 1? At the same br you have enemys fully stabilised, lef, darts, 1 tank even thermals

In my opinion 7.7 is very appaling with tech tree stuff. 8.0 is somewhat bearable, but still not good. 9.0 or 9.3 is where fun started from me after 6.7

Its my personal beef with it because it ruins primo heavy tank territory. It isnt just Pzh2000 but all modern howitzers. But its the one vehicle I run into the most so…

It has LRF which automaticallly makes it accquire targets faster at range with pinpoint accuracy.

It can easily one tap anything but few vehicles, if it places it shots accurately which it can thanks to LRF. Amd can do a follow up shot extremely quickly for a gin of its caliber.

For howitzer the mobility isnt half bad.

Its supposedly “balanced” out by being “large” target. But that means more spread out crew and modules, so in some cases it can tank ridiculous amount of damage, if you cant hit it in ammo stowage like the one in the back of the turret.

And low gun laying speeds, but that doesnt matter at long range ultimately.

What happens is that BR where long range combat should be dominated by tanks like Conqueror is instead dominated by modern howitzer.

things that make Prime heavy tank BRs Bad (according to Heavy tank ultras)

  • Howizers/Large caliber guns

  • Everything with Heat-FS

  • Everything with Missiles

  • Everything airborne

generalised: everything that can kill a Heavy tank but isn’t one

as much as i think howitzers were overall bad idea because they simply dont fit the warthunder and people asking for them are silly, non-LRF howitzers arent as disruptive to gameplay as LRF ones at such ridiculously low BRs.

If Pzh2000 was say 10.7, no one would bat an eye, but it sits at 7.7 where most tanks will take X times longer to properly lay their gun on Pzh2000 than it will take for Pzh2000 to fire.

it allows for some ridiculous gameplay, where 60 ton heavy tank is afraid to push a corner because theres a 7 ton go-kart with engine from lawnmover aiming at it with HEAT-FS slinging gun.

seeing ATGMs in WW2 vehicles is silly.

CAS issues have several of their own dedicated threads; moreso CAS issues arent unique to heavy tanks.

its just silly that Im more afraid to push a corner held by Ontos or Raketen than im afraid to push a corner held by IS-3.

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How could I forgot to mention my big booty baddie Maus. Damn.

imo it’s silly to believe youre entitled to be Indestructible only because you’re driving a Slow tank with armour

Heavy tank absolutely should be imprevious in frontal arc against standard ammo or have enough armor to force the opponent to go for weakspots.

against some enemies yes, but not against all

especially specialised vehicles like Light tanks, SPHs and Missile carriers that give up a Lot in exchange for firepower should have an advantage over heavy tanks

Their advantage should come from superior mobility, not ability to lolpen a heavy of same BR frontally.

Shouldnt be in the game in the first place.

there should be ZERO LRF equipped howitzers below 10.7.

Shouldnt meet WW2 tanks

Be prepared to face CONSTANT full uptiers against superior vehicles since gaijin refuses to decompress vehicles with darts, stabilizers and laser rangefinders against vehicle that don’t have this stuff.

Recent days i came to conclusion that im pretty ready to erase my lineups between 6.0-8.0