German WW2 SPAAG Flaks 20-50mm and their Ammunition Discontinued moved into General Armarments

No, Gerät 341 is the engineering code name for the Flak 341 anti-aircraft gun, and it remained as such until the project was halted, just like this picture.

As for Gerät 342, it is the engineering code name for adapting the Flak 43 zwilling to an armored chassis. It primarily refers to the improvements made to the Flak 43 zwilling. After improvements were made to the ammunition feeding mechanism of the Flak 43 and it received approval and urging from the army, they decided to rename it as the Flak.44.

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But the Flakpanzer 341’s gun that the Gerät 341 refers to is the Fla.K.-Zwilling 44, right?

No, Fla.K.-Zwilling 44 is Gerät 342

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Wait so is the Gerät 342 the Fla.K. 44 or the Fla.K.-Zwilling 44? The document you sent earlier says Fla.K.-Zwilling 44, so I assume that, but I’m just clarifying. Also, does this just mean the Gerät 341 is just the Gerät 341? I’m asking because FirearmsCentral, which is usually very reliable, directly refers to the Gerät 341 as the Fla.K.-Zwilling 44.

Thats the same, Zwilling just means twin. And the Flak 44 is redesigned for effective use in vehicles side by side. As a Flakzwilling.
And no Gerät 341 isnt Flak 44.

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Alright, thanks.

Also, when it comes to ammuniton for the 341, what on earth is Lh. 37 and what does it stand for?
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Leuchtspurhülse. Tracerpod/shell. There are more drawings of the shell pattern, ill add them later.

Someone in a FB group mentioned, that Fledermaus might be the Ju 88 P-3 Twin BK arrangement. However, until further source, or even his source is shared, i kind of doubt it.

However, the initial velocity of BK3,7 is 900 m/s, not 1000 m/s, which is inconsistent with the content in RL3. Moreover, the report on that page in RL3 only pertains to development projects in the field of anti-aircraft artillery and does not include aircraft.

I know, thats why i doubt it. Is it possible that A Ju 88 P-3 recived it as test armarment. Yes, but not the standart.
Overall the BK series are land based armarments. So its not impossible.

Isn’t Leuchtspur abbreviated as L’spur though?

Yes, but here its not an idicator that it has an Tracer, but its the model designation for the tracer unit (the part itself, which is screw in). And its Navy ammo and designation, which is sometimes different from Army and Airforce.

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A few things to note:
-It’s a bit weird that there is no proper pic of the gebirgsflak 38, because they are quite easy to find
-Another weird thing is the fact that there are no pics of the flak 30 and 38 with their shields mounted on them, it would be cool to add some to see the difference, because their shields were different
-A better explanation of the differences between the flak 18, 36 and 37 would be welcome. I know there wasn’t much differences between the 36 and 37 (only the sights iirc), but there were a few differences between the 18 and the 36/37 (I think it was the fire rate iirc, but I might be wrong, it’s been a while since I checked).

Other than that, the topic is excellent.

The 3,7 cm Flak 18/36/37 are identical guns, only the mounting changed, all have the same fire rate.

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Ah yes, I just checked, and the 180 rpm was the theoretical fire rate of these three guns, but it was the practical fire rate that was different between them: 80 rpm for the flak 18, and 120 rpm for the flak 36/37.

Yes, because they doubeled the length of the loading tray, while on the 18 and the 39 (Romanian Lincesed copy) it only could fit one, on the 36 and 37 you could directly put 2 on.

Also added already some photos.
And text.

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Foldered the 3,7 cm Flak 18/36/37 and 43, added some more text, corrected some stuff.

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as a flak enjoyer i would love a 50mm flak. it would scratch the zsu-57 itch at a lower br

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Found another proof, that the 2 and 3,7 cm Flaks did have Pzgr.40 / H-Pzgr. / Pzgr.40 Flak (Click to show) Also these values are for at 30° side angle, except when stated "nur bei nahezu senkrechten Beschuss"




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This topic has been discontinued by me and instead moved into the General Armarments Topic.