Part 2
Continuation of the Main Topic duo to Comment size limit.
10,5 cm
10,5 cm KwK L/16
The Rauchwagen short RW made by Krupp in the early 1930s and was a alternative design to the Begleitwagen II Krupp, for a similar purpose like the british 3 Inch howitzer vehicles.
The Rauchwagen is identical to the Begleitwagen II Krupp but instead of the 7,5 cm KwK L/24 it recived an 10,5 cm KwK L/16. To be able to create smokes big smokescreens (Rauch) and better support infantry with greater He charge, as well as greater AT performance in comparisson to the L/24.
Ap:
Pzgr. (Aphe) 14 kg 238g (304,64g aquivalent) filler ? m/s ?mm/10m
Pzgr. Rot (Apcbc) 15,56 kg 250g (357,5g) ?m/s ?mm/10m
Gr.39 Rot Hl/B (Heat) 12,35 kg 2,53 kg filler aquivalent ?m/s 105mm/all
(More Pictures in Hl/C)
Gr.39 Rot Hl/C (Heat) 12,35 kg 2,53 kg filler aquivalent ?m/s 115mm/all
He:
Sprgr.34 (He (TF)) 14,85 kg 1,6 kg filler Fp.02 und Np.10 (2,05 kg TnTa) ?m/s
Utility:
F.H. Gr. Nb. (Smoke) 14 kg 50g smokestuff ?m/s
Kt. (Canitster Shot) 15 kg ?m/s
10,5 cm LeFH 16 L/22
The 10,5 cm LeFH 16 L/22 was a mid WW1 developed artillery piece, to replace the outdated and allready modernized 10,5 cm LeFH 98/09 L/12, which had a too short range especially in comparisson to other nations arty pieces. As such a longer barrled, but still with mobility in mind L/16 gun was developed and successfully used even in WW2 where it served along its younger and stronger brother the LeFH 18 L/28. Most pieces that germany was allowed to keep after WW1 were later in WW2 placed on captured vehicles to create cheap self propelled Howitzers, as these guns were not as mobile and shorter ranged as the LeFH 18.
Along with simple SPH conversions, it was also built into the turret of the Begleitwagen B.W. Krupp, creating the Rauchwagen R.W. Krupp, which however was not taken into production beyond the 1 prototype.
Caliber: 105mm
Ammo: 105x155mmR
Fire Rate: 6 rpm
Single Shot, Horizontal sliding Breechblock
Muzzle velocity: 391-427m/s
Weight: 1525 kg (Combat ready)
Mounting: Main Tank gun, Field Mount, Wooden wheels.
Ammo Types: Apcbc, Aphe, He, Smoke, Heat, Canister Shot
Ap:
Pzgr. (Aphe) 14 kg 238g Fp.02 and Np.10 (304,64g TnTa) 404 m/s 56mm/10m
Pzgr. Rot (Apcbc) 15,56 kg 250g Fp.02 and Np.10 (357,5g) 391 m/s 64mm/10m
Gr.39 Rot Hl/B (Heat (No Tracer)) 12,35 kg 1,49kg H.5 (2,53kg TnTa) 420 m/s 105mm/all
(More Pictures in Hl/C)
Gr.39 Rot Hl/C (Heat) 12,35 kg 1,49kg H.5 (2,53kg TnTa) 420 m/s 115mm/all
(Early no Tracer, implemented during production.)
He:
F.H. Gr. (He (TF)(No Tracer)) 14,81 kg 1,75 kg Fp.02 und Np.10 (2,24 kg TnTa) 397 m/s
Lg.F.H. Gr. (He (No Tracer)) 15,6 kg 2 kg Fp.60/40 391 m/s
(Possibly could also have a higher charge.)
C-Geschoss (He (No Tracer)) 15,5 - 15,6 kg 1,5-1,9 kg Fp.60/40 + 150g Picrin Acid 427 m/s
Maybe used with higher charge, like the F.H.Gr. Fern.
Utility:
F.H. Gr. Nb. (Smoke (No Tracer)) 14 kg 50g smokestuff 404 m/s
Kt. (Canitster Shot (No Tracer)) 15 kg 395 m/s
H.Schr.16 (Shrapnell-TF (No Tracer)) 15,6 kg 0,2 kg Blackpowder 391m/s
450 Steelballs of 13,8mm
Some incendary effect by the pitch around the balls.
Schrapnell L/4,1 (Shrapnell-TF (No Tracer)) 15 kg 0,15 kg Blackpowder 465 m/s
515 Steelballs 10g each or 390 of 13,3g
Brandgranate (Incendary-Shrapnell-TF (No Tracer)) 15 kg 165g Blackpowder 395 m/s
3 rows of 3 cylinders 70x21mm or 4 cylinders 65x20mm of 280g
10,5 cm LeFH 18 L/28 (and its variants, StuH 42 and more)
The LeFH 18 L/28 was the most numerous 10,5 cm Howitzer of the german army and in general a very well known gun with perhaps an eaqual reputation like the 8,8 cm Flak. It was an improved designe from the LeFH 16 L/22 from WW1 and was designed in the interwar period, it recived a bigger propellant charch (6 instead of 5), longer barrle, 2nd recoil cylinder over the barrle and a multitude of new rounds from the beginning and even in the late war period in form of a Pzgr Ts.
It was a very important piece, while tried to replace it with an L/35 gun later, that was however not the case duo to war situation and as such it stayed in service from the very beginning to the very end. It was a very versitale gun that was also mounted on lots of different vehicles Captured and own ones. It existed in a multitude of versions and deriveratives, but overall stayed true to its nature, with the most known version beeing the electically fired StuH 42, which had replaced on top recoil cylinders as well as Fixed Casings Heat Shells. During its service it recived a multitude of Muzzle Brakes, which were only needed for the F.H. Gr. F (Fern/High Range) and increased barrle life, however could fire other other shells without it.
Caliber: 105mm
Ammo: 105x155mmR
LeFH 40 has only 1 piece longer casings of 264mm:
Fire Rate: 6 rpm
Single Shot, Horizontal sliding Breechblock
Muzzle velocity: 461 - 540m/s
Weight: 1985 kg (Combat ready)
Mounting: Main Tank gun, train turret, Field Mount, Wooden and solid rubber wheels.
Ammo Types: Apcbc, Aphe, He, Smoke, Heat, Canister Shot, Apcbc-DS, He-DS
Ap:
Pzgr. (Aphe) 14 kg 238g 238g Fp.02 and Np.10 (304,64g TnTa) 480/500 m/s 72mm/10m
Pzgr. Rot (Apcbc) 15,56 kg 250g Fp.02 and Np.10 (357,5g) 461/481 m/s 82mm/10m
Gr.39 Rot Hl/B (Heat (No Tracer)) 12,35 kg 1,49kg H.5 (2,53kg TnTa) 495 m/s 105mm/all
(More Pictures in Hl/C)
Gr.39 Rot Hl/C (Heat) 12,35 kg 1,49kg H.5 (2,53kg TnTa) 495 m/s 115mm/all
(Early no Tracer, implemented during production.)
10,5 / 7,5 cm Pzgr.39 TS (Apcbc-DS) 6,4 kg 17g H.10 765/785 m/s 138mm/10m
He:
F.H.Gr. (He (TF) (No Tracer)) 14,81 kg 1,75 kg Fp.02 und Np.10 (2,24 kg TnTa) 470/490 m/s
F.H.Gr. F (He (TF) (No Tracer)) 14,81 kg 2,21-2,335 kg Fp.02 und Np.10 (2,83-2,99 kg TnTa) 540/560 m/s
10,5 / 8,8 cm Sprgr.42 Ts (He-DS (No Tracer)) 9,3 kg 850-935g Fp.02 and Np.10 (1,088-1,197 kg) 620 m/s
(Didnt find the drawings, as such here is the real thing)
Utility:
F.H.Gr. Nb. (Smoke (No Tracer)) 14 kg 50g smokestuff dont expect much 480/500 m/s
Kt. (Canister Shot (No Tracer)) 15 kg 465/485 m/s
H.Schr.16 (Shrapnell-TF (No Tracer)) 15,6 kg 0,2 kg Blackpowder 461/481 m/s
450 Steelballs of 13,8mm
Some incendary effect by the pitch around the balls.
Schrapnell L/4,1 (Shrapnell-TF (No Tracer)) 15 kg 0,15 kg Blackpowder 465/485 m/s
515 Steelballs 10g each or 390 of 13,3g
10,5 cm Geb. H.40 L/30
Unlike often written, the gun is not limited to chemical rounds, in the 2nd GebH 40 Manual it is written that it uses the same ammo as the LeFH 18 L/28, however the difference is in the Mount, which is made of more leight weight alloys and does not have a gunshield. Other change is the use of a extended semi fixed Casing for all ammo, the Fernladung (7 Ladung) is also available and longer barrel which increases the velocity across all rounds by 30m/s. It was a gun by Böhler, while it externally looks similar to the Rheinmetall Le.F.H.18.
Caliber: 105mm
Ammo: 105x264mmR
LeFH 40 has only 1 piece longer casings of 264mm:
Fire Rate: 6 rpm
Single Shot, Horizontal sliding Breechblock
Muzzle velocity: 491 - 570m/s
Weight: 1656 kg (Combat ready) (4 main parts for transport each ~ 650 kg
Mounting: Field Mount, Wooden and solid rubber wheels as well as on vehicles
Ammo Types: Apcbc, Aphe, He, Smoke, Heat, Canister Shot
Ap:
Pzgr. (Aphe) 14 kg 238g (304,64g aquivalent) filler 510 m/s 78,25mm/10m
Pzgr. Rot (Apcbc) 15,56 kg 250g (357,5g) 491 m/s 89,90mm/10m
Gr.39 Rot Hl/B (Heat) 12,35 kg 2,53 kg filler aquivalent 495 m/s 105mm/all
(More Pictures in Hl/C)
Gr.39 Rot Hl/C (Heat) 12,35 kg 2,53 kg filler aquivalent 495 m/s 115mm/all
He:
F.H.Gr. (He (TF)) 14,81 kg 1,75 kg filler Fp.02 und Np.10 (2,24 kg TnTa) 500 m/s
F.H.Gr. F (He (TF) (No Tracer)) 14,81 kg 2,21-2,335 kg Fp.02 und Np.10 (2,83-2,99 kg TnTa) 570 m/s
Utility:
F.H.Gr. Nb. (Smoke) 14 kg 50g smokestuff dont expect much 510 m/s
Kt. (Canitster Shot) 15 kg 495 m/s
H.Schr.16 (Shrapnell-TF) 15,6 kg 0,2 kg Blackpowder 491m/s
450 Steelballs of 13,8mm
Some incendary effect by the pitch around the balls.
10,5 cm KwK L/28 (DW)
There are no surviving photos, there is a desciption in the documents, in the source section. Overall its the barrel of the LeFH 18 L/28 with new rifeling as well as new breech with 1 piece ammo.
Caliber: 105 mm
Fire rate: 6-8 rpm
The ammo this time, isnt fully based on what the LeFH 18 used, but instead what was mentioned in RH 8/2930 document.
Ammo Types: APHE, APCBC, HEAT, HE, Smoke, Canister
Ap:
Pzgr. (Aphe) 14 kg 238g (304,64g aquivalent) filler 480-540 m/s 72-85mm/10m
480m/s at normal charge and pressure of 2500 kg/cm² and 540m/s at high charge of 2800-2850 kg/cm²
Pzgr. Rot (Apcbc) 15,56 kg 240g (357,5g) 461-521 m/s 82-97,85mm/10m
461m/s at normal charge and pressure of 2500 kg/cm² and 521m/s at high charge of 2800-2850 kg/cm²
Gr.39 Rot Hl/B (Heat) 12,35 kg 2,53 kg filler aquivalent 495 m/s 105mm/all
(More Pictures in Hl/C)
Gr.39 Rot Hl/C (Heat) 12,35 kg 2,53 kg filler aquivalent 495 m/s 115mm/all
He:
Sprgr.34 (He (TF)) 14,85 kg 1,6 kg filler Fp.02 und Np.10 (2,05 kg TnTa) 450-470-500 m/s
470m/s at normal charge and pressure of 2500 kg/cm² and 500m/s at medium and 450 at low charge.
Utility:
F.H.Gr. Nb. (Smoke) 14 kg 50g smokestuff dont expect much 480 m/s
Kt. (Canitster Shot) 15 kg 495 m/s
10,5 cm K.18 L/52
The 10,5 cm K.18 L/52 was the heavy 10(,5) cm schwere Kanone and bigger brother to the 10,5 cm LeFH 18 L/28, mainly used as Artillery, heavy AT guns and to attack heavy fortifications.
Generally speaking its a good gun for its class, trails for a longer barrle with increased velocity to 905m/s was trailed, however it was seen as not worth to implement as the range increase to weight increase was not great enove. Overall this gun was build onto the Pz.Sfl. IVb aka Dicker Max and was designed to attack the heavy fortified position of the Maginot line. Cince it came too late for that, it was reclassified as a Heavy tank destroyer and used on the Eastern front, where it could destroy even the heavy armored KW-1E tanks from great range.
Caliber: 105mm
Ammo: 105x650mmR (3rd/große ladung)
Fire Rate: 12 rpm
Single Shot, Horizontal sliding Breechblock
Muzzle velocity: 822-835m/s
Weight: 5720 kg
Mounting: Main Tank gun, Field gun
Ammo Types: Apcbc, He, Saphe
Ap:
Pzgr. Rot (Apcbc) 15,56 kg 250g (357,5g) 822m/s 186mm/10m
Pzgr. Rot (Ei) ((S)apbc) 15,56kg 135g Fp.02, Fp.10 and Pyrin (173g Tnta?) 822m/s 178mm/10m
He:
Gr.19 (He-TF (No Tracer)) 15,14kg 1,75kg Fp.02 and Np.10 835m/s
Gr.19 (Bo.Pr) (He-TF (No Tracer)) 15,14kg 1,85kg Fp.02 and Np.10 835m/s
10,5 cm KwK L/47
For the Vk 30.01 (P) tank armed with the proposed 10,5 cm KwK L/47, which is a modified 10,5 cm K.18 L/52 with new one piece ammo and a little bit more power, but shorter barrel. While the gun lost to the 8,8 cm KwK 36 L/56 and the tank didnt go into produktion.
Caliber: 105mm
Ammo: 105x672mm
Fire Rate: 12 rpm
Single Shot, Horizontal sliding Breechblock
Muzzle velocity: 837, 850m/s
Weight: 1960 kg
Mounting: Main Tank gun
Ammo Types: Apcbc, He, Saphe
Ap:
Pzgr. Rot (Apcbc) 15,56 kg 250g (357,5g) 837m/s 192mm/10m
Pzgr. Rot (Ei) ((S)apbc) 15,56kg 135g Fp.02, Fp.10 and Pyrin (173g Tnta?) 837m/s 182mm/10m
He:
Gr.19 (He-TF (No Tracer)) 15,14kg 1,75kg Fp.02 and Np.10 850m/s
Gr.19 (Bo.Pr) (He-TF (No Tracer)) 15,14kg 1,85kg Fp.02 and Np.10 850m/s
12,8 cm
12,8 cm Flak / K. 40 L/61
The 12,8 cm K.40 L/61 was basically the 12,8 cm Flak 40 L/61 in a anti ground rolle. Cince its incredible size and weight it was quite difficult to make a self propelled version, as such the Vehicle was basically build around the gun, the Sturer Emil based on the Vk 30.01 (H) with extended hull and the gun placed at the very end. Intended as a heavy assault gun like the 10,5 cm Dicker Max, however came too late to the French attack and the intended target was gone around, as such it took on the rolle of the Heavy Tank destoryer. However even tho it did it rolle very well, it stayed at the 2x Protoypes as it was decided that a Tank destoryer with such gun should be either a light and mobile chassis with a 360° Turret such as the later Waffenträger or a heavily armored Casemate designe such as the Jagdtiger, while this was neither, it was slow, relatively low armored Casemate tank destoryer. The original Flak 40 were heavy 17 ton Flaks which were only used in fixed position and Flak Türme, such as in Berlin. While the K.40 was also submitted as the Requested Anti tank gun, it was rejected in favour of the more powerfull Pak 44.
Caliber: 128mm
Ammo: 128x958mmR
Fire Rate: 12 rpm
Single Shot, Horizontal sliding Breechblock
Muzzle velocity: 880-900m/s
Weight: 12000 kg
Mounting: Main Tank gun, Fixed position
Ammo Types: Apc, Apcbc, He
Ap:
Pzgr. (Apc) 26,35kg 550g Ph-Salz and H.10 (786,5g) 880/900m/s 233/241mm/10m
Pzgr.43 (Apcbc) 28,3kg 550g Ph-Salz and H.10 (786,5g) 860/880m/s 252mm/10m
He:
Sprgr. L/4,5 (He-TF (No Tracer)) 26kg 880/900m/s 3,6kg Fp.02 and Np.10 (4,61kg)
12,8 cm K.44 L/55 (And other Models)
Development, along the K.40 and Krupps as well as Rheinmetalls K.44 as in new intended universal/combined Fieldgun and Anti Tank gun, like allready the german army encountered at the russian front with their 12,2 cm L/45 guns. While perhaps the most powerfull AT gun on WW2, even taken as the golden protection standart for new tanks to come, it at the same time failed as a field gun, duo to its size and sheer weight and relative low production numbers.
Caliber: 128mm
Ammo: 128x869mmR
Fire Rate: 12 rpm
Single Shot, Horizontal sliding Breechblock
Muzzle velocity: 750-1260 (1800)m/s
Weight: 10,160 kg (Pak 44) 7000 kg (Pak 80)
Mounting: Main Tank gun, Fixed position
Ammo Types: Apc, Apcbc, He, Apcbc-DS, He-DS, HEAT
Ap:
Pzgr. (Apc) 26,35kg 550g Ph-Salz and H.10 (786,5g) 930/950m/s 252-260mm/10m
Pzgr.43 (Apcbc) 28,3kg 550g Ph-Salz and H.10 (786,5g) 920/940m/s 264-272mm/10m
He:
Sprgr. L/4,5 (He-TF (No Tracer)) 26kg 750/920/940m/s 3,6kg Fp.02 and Np.10 (4,61kg)
Sprgr. L/5 (5151) (HE-TF (No Tracer)) 28kg 750/920/940m/s
15 cm - 21 cm
15 cm s.I.G. 33 L/12 (and StuH 43 L/12)
Along with its small brother the 7,5 cm Le.I.G. 18 L/12, this gun was intended to be a mobile infantry gun lighter and closer to the frontline than the howitzers, to give direct heavy fire support over the heads of the infantry, with devestating (thinner walled) He rounds and Smoke rounds. Also later on to act quick on Tank attacks equipped with strong HEAT rounds, as well as a Overcaliber HE round to destroy fortifications and Minefields.
Caliber: 150mm
Ammo: 150x129mmR
For Stielgranate 42:
Fire Rate: 10 rpm
Single Shot, Horizontal sliding Breechblock
Muzzle velocity: 105-230-280 m/s
Weight: 1800 kg
Mounting: Main Tank gun, Field Infantry gun
Ammo: HE, HEAT, Smoke, Overcaliber HE
AP:
I.Gr.38 Hl/A (HEAT) 24,58 kg 4,16 kg H.5 (7,07 kg TnTa) 280 m/s 231mm/all
Due lower rotation and velocity, the penetration is higher when fired from the s.I.G/StuH.
HE:
I.Gr.33 (He (No Tracer)) 38 kg 8,6 kg Fp.02 and Np.10 (11 kg TnTa) 240 m/s
Utility:
I.Gr. 38 Nb (Smoke (No Tracer)) 38,46 kg 2,24 kg Smoke stuff 240 m/s
Kt. (Canister Shot (No Tracer)) 40 kg Lead or Steel Balls 230m/s
15 cm s.F.H. 13 L/17
A WW1 Artillery Piece still in stock, as Germany needed every Gun they got their hands on.
Given new ammunition, it increased its potential, it was mounted on a series of Lorrain Schlepper (f).
Caliber: 150mm
Ammo: 150x112mmR
Fire Rate: 7 rpm
Single Shot, Horizontal sliding Breechblock
Muzzle velocity: 381-460 m/s
Weight: 2135 kg
Mounting: Main Tank gun, Field Howitzer
Ammo Types: Saphebc, He, Smoke, HEAT
AP:
Gr.19 Be (Beton) (Saphebc (No Tracer)) 43,5 kg 3,22 kg Ph-Salz und H.10 (4,6046 kg TnTa) 381 m/s 32-64mm/10m
HE:
Gr.19 (He-TF (No Tracer)) 43,5 kg 5,208 kg Amatol and Np.10 (6,67kg) 381m/s
Also Pressed filler of 4,336kg Fp.02. Or also with Bu1d. of 4,05kg Np.30 and Azin.
I.Gr.38 (He (No Tracer)) 38 kg 8,6 kg Amatol and Np.10 (11,01 kg TnTa) 460m/s
Utility:
Gr.19 Nb. (Smoke (No Tracer)) 39 kg 0,62 kg Np.10 (1,054kg TnTa) 440m/s
Kt. (Canister Shot (No Tracer)) 40 kg Lead or Steel Balls 430m/s
15 cm s.F.H. 18 L/30
Interwar development for the Heavy Field Howitzer, to have a as light as possible increased range gun compared to the s.F.H. 13 L/17. While it still showed somewhat lacking range in the war, this was trailed to be fixed with longer L/32 and L/36 barrles, these didnt go along with the s.F.H. 42 into production, instead it was the R.Granate and Sprgr.42 TS which were used as increased range counter Artillery, while the normal ammo was sufficient for normal targets.
Caliber: 150mm
150x260mmR
Fire Rate: 6 rpm
Single Shot, Horizontal sliding Breechblock
Muzzle velocity: 505-880 m/s
Weight: 5512 kg
Mounting: Main Tank gun, Field Howitzer
Ammo Types: Saphebc, He, Smoke, HEAT, Apcbc-DS, HE-DS
AP:
Gr.19 Be (Beton) (Saphebc (No Tracer)) 43,5 kg 3,22 kg Ph-Salz und H.10 (4,6046 kg TnTa) 520 m/s 50-100mm/10m
HE:
Gr.19 (He-TF (No Tracer)) 43,5 kg 5,208 kg Amatol and Np.10 (6,67kg) 520m/s
Also Pressed filler of 4,336kg Fp.02. Or also with Bu1d. of 4,05kg Np.30 and Azin.
I.Gr.38 (He (No Tracer)) 38 kg 8,6 kg Amatol and Np.10 (11,01 kg TnTa) 465m/s
R.Granate 19 (He-TF Rocket assisted (No Tracer)) 43,9kg 505m/s (Start velocity)
Utility:
Gr.19 Nb. (Smoke (No Tracer)) 39 kg 0,62 kg Np.10 (1,054kg TnTa) 543m/s
Kt. (Canister Shot (No Tracer)) 40 kg Lead or Steel Balls 530m/s
15 cm Sk C/28 L/55 in Mörserlafette
Pzgr. L/3,7 (m.Hb.) Apcbc 45,5 kg 1,1 kg Fp.02 875 m/s 283mm/10m
Sprgr. L/4,5 Kz (m.Hb.) He 45,5 kg 3,64 kg Fp.02 875 m/s 37mm/all
Sprgr. L/4,4 Bdz (m.Hb.) Sapbc 45,5 kg 3,03 kg Fp.02 875 m/s
17 cm K.72 L/50
AP:
He:
K.Gr.38 (Hb.) (Hebc (TF)) 62,8 kg 6,105 kg Fp.02 and Np.10 (7,81 kg TnTa) 930 m/s
K.Gr.39 (He) 68 kg 7,33 kg Fp.02 and Np.10 filler (9,38 kg TnTa) 875 m/s
21 cm M.18 L/31
Pictures:(Click to show)
It was a prewar designe, called Mörser, as per book all german guns of 20 cm and up are Mörser (Mortars), even tho this would be more of a Howitzer. It was an effective gun for its size, used in a multitude of rolls from artillery to bashing in reinforced structures and even makeshift Anti tank if needed.
Caliber: 210mm
Ammo: 210x410mmR
Fire Rate: 1 rpm
Single Shot, Horizontal sliding Breechblock
Muzzle velocity: ? - 565 m/s
Weight: 16700 kg
Mounting: Main Tank gun, Fixed position
Ammo Types: He, Saphebc, Saphedsfs, SAP
Datasheet for the 21 cm Mrs 18 L/31
AP:
Gr.18 Be (Sapbc) 121,4 kg 11,5 kg filler of Fp.02 und Np.10 (14,72kg) 565 m/s with 163mm/10m penetration
12 cm Rö.Gr.44 Be (Saphedsfs (No Tracer)) 193 kg 7,255 kg filler 385m/s (see 42 Be)
HE:
Gr.18 (He (No Tracer)) 133kg 17,35 kg Fp.02 and Np.10 Filler (22,21 kg TnTa) 565m/s
WW1 Section:
7,92 mm - 2 cm
7,92 mm Mg 08/18
Pictures:(Click to show)
Mg 08 was the german take on the Maxim MG in 7,92x57mm, with its long barrle (721mm) it had very good velocity and by that combined with the K-Geschoss even enove penetration to penetrate the Mark Tanks of the British. It was still in usage in the interwar period and WW2, while its main use was in WW1 on the ground, in vehicles, Trucks, Tanks and planes in different versions.
Caliber: 7,92mm
Ammo: 7,92x57mm
Fire Rate: 500-600 rpm
Single Shot, Full auto, 250 / 500 round belts
Muzzle velocity: 900m/s
Weight: Mg 08/15 19,5 kg, Mg 08/18 15 kg
Mounting: Main Tank gun, Fixed and flexible, Field Guns
Ammo Types: Ap, Ball
13,2mm T-Gewehr M1918
13,2 mm Mg 18 TuF
After the appearance of the British Tank, solutions were searched with one beeing the idea of a dedicated High Caliber Heavy Machine gun, fireing the 13,2x92mmSR ammo. With the Stopgap beeing the T-Gewehr 1918. Intended to be against Tanks und Flieger (Tanks and Planes).
While the Velocity compared to the T-Gewehr drastically dropped to 550m/s, it was still enove to penetrate the British Tanks.
Caliber: 13,2mm
Ammo: 13,2x92mmSR Polte
Fire Rate: 500 rpm
Single Shot, Full auto, 50 Round drumm or 75 Round Belts
Muzzle velocity: 550m/s
Weight: 37kg
Mounting: Main Tank gun, Fixed and flexible, Field Guns
Ammo Types: Ap, Ap-T, Ap-I
Video about the ammo:(Click to show)
AP:
2 cm Becker M.II
Pictures:(Click to show)
One of the first modern type 20mm Cannon and served as the basis for the later Oerlikon 20mm FF guns. Using the API Blowback action. It was Intended as a AA and AT gun, on ground, vehicles and planes/airships. Later M3 variant was heavyer, reducing the fire rate to 250 rpm but velocity to 700m/s.
It was intended as 20mm, to not be a warcrime to have an explosive filling, overall the ammo layout was also quite modern, with multiple AP rounds, HE rounds as well as incendary rounds.
Caliber: 20mm
Ammo: 20x70mmRB Becker
Fire Rate: 325 rpm
Single Shot, Full auto, 15 rounds Magazin
Muzzle velocity: 490-575-700m/s
Weight: 30kg
Mounting: Main Tank gun, Fixed and flexible
Ammo Types: Ap-T, I-T, I, HEI, HE
Summary Of ammo Drawings:(Click to show)
(The drawing isnt fully correct, as the nose is too thinn drawn.)
AP:
Panzergeschoß L'Spur Modell 1 (ApI-T) 145g ?m/s 18mm/10m
(Can be conciddered ApI-T, duo to huge tracer filling, made of Barium Nitrate, Magnesium and Shellac of 7g.)
Panzergeschoß L’Spur Modell 2 (ApI-T) (Identical to first one, different head form, see in above summary.)
HE:
Sprenggeschoß Modell 1 (He High capcity, Fuzeless) 137 g
5,5g TNT + 0,5g Pieic acid ?m/s (See ammo Summary)
Incendary:
Brandgeschoß (I) 137g 12g Incendary ?m/s some penetration
Leuchtspurgeschoß (I-T) 144g Barium Nitrate, Magnesium, Shellac filler 11g ?m/s some penetration
(A bit incorrect here)
3,7 cm
3,7 cm Sockel Flak L/14,5
Weight: 215kg 120 RPM 355 m/s for the 0,47 kg He and 360 m/s for the 0,465 kg SapI-T velocity. -5° to + 80° elevation.
Overall 4 rounds existed, beeing of old and new designe, as well as possible different designes of different construction. 2x He rounds and 2x ApI-T rounds existed.
these include the.
AP:
L'Spur.-Gr. L/2,5
L'Spur.-Gr. L/2,5 (Stahl) (ApI-T) 0,465 kg 360m/s 14mm/10m
Can be conciddered ApI-T, duo to its huge tracer filling of Barium Nitrate, Magnesium and Shellac.
HE:
Gr. L/2,5
Sprgr. L/2,5 (Kz.) (He (No Tracer)) 0,47 kg 0,042kg Pieretic Acid (0,0462kg TnTa) 355m/s
Also aparently a 2nd version with base plug, weight of 0,45kg and 0,04kg He Filler.
Here a link to replica L'Spur.-Gr. L/2,5 (Stahl)
3,7 37x101SR Deutsch Sockel Flak Deko Patrone - Muna-Rheinland Deko Munition Sammlermunition
3,7 cm TaK 1918 L/21,8 (And Fischer)
Uses the standart 3,7 cm Naval ammo.
I will only note the 2 later main rounds, there was later also a 600g Aphe shell developed. All shells visible at the 3,7 cm Sockel Flak L/14,5.
AP:
L'Spur.-Gr. L/2,5 (Stahl) (ApI-T) 0,465 kg 506m/s 22mm/10m
Can be conciddered ApI-T, duo to its huge tracer filling of Barium Nitrate, Magnesium and Shellac.
Pzgr. (A) (Aphe-T) 0,67 kg 10g Pent (17g TnTa) 435m/s-494m/s 18-21mm/10m
HE:
Sprgr. L/2,5 (Kz.) (He (No Tracer)) 0,47 kg 0,042kg Pieretic Acid (0,0462kg TnTa) 506m/s (Some AP performance)
Some AP Performance, as seen in the British Document, used against tanksup to 880 yards.
Also aparently a 2nd version with base plug, weight of 0,45kg and 0,04kg He Filler.
3,7 cm Flak M14 L/29 "Pom-Pom"
Uses the standart 3,7 cm Naval ammo.
I will only note the 2 later main rounds, there was later also a 600g Aphe shell developed, but i couldnt find much info on it anyway. All shells visible at the 3,7 cm Sockel Flak L/14,5.
3,7 cm Flak M14 L/29 “Pom-Pom” (German produced and used licensed copy of the 1-Pounder Maxim-Nordenfelt Pom-Pom gun). Also named simply as 3,7 cm MK (Maschinenkanone).
Caliber: 37mm
Ammo: 37x94mmR
Fire Rate: 300 rpm
Single Shot, Full auto, Belt Fed
Muzzle velocity: 550m/s
Weight: 186kg
Mounting: Main Tank gun, Fixed and flexible
Ammo Types: ApI-T, He
AP:
L'Spur.-Gr. L/2,5 (Stahl) (ApI-T) 0,465 kg 550m/s 26mm/10m
Can be conciddered ApI-T, duo to its huge tracer filling of Barium Nitrate, Magnesium and Shellac.
HE:
Sprgr. L/2,5 (Kz.) (He (No Tracer)) 0,47 kg 0,042kg Pieretic Acid (0,0462kg TnTa) 550m/s (Some AP performance ~16mm/10m)
Some AP Performance, as seen in the British Document, used against tanksup to 880 yards.
Also aparently a 2nd version with base plug, weight of 0,45kg and 0,04kg He Filler.
5 cm - 5,7 cm
5 cm BAK L/30
Caliber: 53mm
Ammo: 53x?mm
Fire Rate: 30-35 rpm
Single Shot
Muzzle velocity: 450-572m/s
Weight: ?kg
Mounting: Main Tank gun
Ammo Types: SAPHE, HE, Shrapnell-TF
-5° to +70° Elevation, 60° Traverse
SAPHE:
HE:
Sprgr. (HE) 1,5kg 170g 572m/s
Utility:
Bodenkammer Schrapnell Gr. (Shrapnell-TF (No Tracer)) 2,4kg 40g Blackpowder 450m/s Some Penetration?
Contains 128 Hrad Cast Lead Balls of 8g and 36 Hard Cast Lead Pieces of 9g each.
Like a Crude WW1 AHEAD round, detonating mid air and ejecting the Shrapnell onto the target.
Some incendary effect by the pitch around the balls.
5,3 cm Gruson L/24,5
Only employed on the Fahrpanzer (at least 1 self propelled Truck Combo was constructed amd photographed, more were build in the fashion, but badly documented.)
Armor: 40mm Cast Iron, lower hull 10-14,5mm Steel Plating.
Caliber: 53mm
Ammo: 53x177mm
Fire Rate: 30-35 rpm
Single Shot
Muzzle velocity: 445-570m/s
Weight: 160kg
Mounting: Main Fixed turret Gun 360° Traverse at 24°/sec +/-10° Elevation
Ammo Types: SAPHE, Shrapnell-TF
AP:
Utility:
Ct. (Canister Shot (No Tracer)) 1,9kg 480m/s
Bodenkammer Schrapnell Gr. (Shrapnell-TF (No Tracer)) 2,4kg 40g Blackpowder 445m/s Some Penetration?
Contains 128 Hrad Cast Lead Balls of 8g and 36 Hard Cast Lead Pieces of 9g each.
Like a Crude WW1 AHEAD round, detonating mid air and ejecting the Shrapnell onto the target.
Some incendary effect by the pitch around the balls.
5,7 cm Maxim-Nordenfelt L/26
5,7 cm Maxim-Nordenfelt -10° to +15° elevation 36 Rpm
Ammo: (Click to show)
AP:
5,7 cm Gr. m.P (P) (Aphe (No Tracer)) 3,1 kg 0,12 kg Fp.02 487m/s with 40mm/10m penetration.
HE:
5,7 cm Gr. (P) (He (No Tracer)) 2,75 kg 0,16 kg Fp.02 487m/s Some Penetration
Utility:
5,7 cm Gruson L/25,6
Only employed on the Fahrpanzer (at least 1 self propelled Truck Combo was constructed amd photographed, more were build in the fashion, but badly documented.)
Armor: 40mm Cast Iron, lower hull 10-14,5mm Steel Plating.
Caliber: 57mm
Ammo: 57x250mmR
Fire Rate: 30-35 rpm
Single Shot
Muzzle velocity: 490-495m/s
Weight: 160kg
Mounting: Main Fixed turret Gun 360° Traverse at 24°/sec +/-10° Elevation
Ammo Types: APHE, HE
AP:
5,7 cm Gr. m.P (P) (Aphe (No Tracer)) 3,1 kg 0,12 kg Fp.02 490m/s with 40mm/10m penetration.
HE:
5,7 cm Gr. (P) (He (No Tracer)) 2,75 kg 0,16 kg Fp.02 495m/s Some Penetration
Utility:
5,7 cm Hotchkiss L/40
While it is a 5,7 cm Hotchkiss L/40 gun, germany produced and used their own ammo in their different
5,7 cm guns such as the:
It has 550-554 m/s, -15° to + 90° elevation with 20-25 rpm
AP:
5,7 cm Gr. m.P (P) (Aphe (No Tracer)) 3,1 kg 0,12 kg Fp.02 550m/s with 47mm/10m penetration.
HE:
5,7 cm Gr. (P). (HE (No Tracer)) 2,75 kg 0,16 kg Fp.02 and 554 m/s
7,7 cm - 8,8 cm
7,7 cm FK 96 n.A. L/27 (And derivatives)
The 7,7 cm FK 96 n.A. L/27 was the pre war modernized (n.A. → neue Art (New Model)) 7,7 cm Field gun, it was a small and light desinge, which was quite outdated even by the 1900s standart (its from 1896). With the original desinge beeing fixed, without recoil cylinders. While ideal for the early WW1 part where there was more movement, in the later stages its short range came to its disatvantage.
However its one of the most iconic WW1 Field Guns.
Caliber: 77mm
Ammo: 77x234mmR
Fire Rate: ~15 rpm (In the Flak Mount up to 25 rpm)
Single Shot, Horizontal Sliding Breech block
Muzzle velocity: 465-500m/s
Weight: 1020kg
Mounting: Main Gun, Field Gun, AA Gun
Ammo Types: APHE, HE, Smoke, Shrapnell, Canister
Note:
The German WW2 Made drawings have for the plain HE grenades different weights, duo to new fuzes, the British source FROM 1918 is in that aspect more accurat, with the exception to the Shrapnell and APHE rounds!
(Amatol could also have a 1,26x TnTa.)
AP:
K.Gr. 15 m.P. m.L. (Aphe) 7 kg 230g Fp.02 465m/s 52mm/10m penetration
K.Gr.16 (Saphe (No Tracer)) 6,25 kg 700g Amatol 480m/s 30+mm/10m(Historical 20mm/600m)
With Lg.K.Z.m.V., also available as pure HE with E.K.Z. 16/23 fuze (see below under HE)
HE:
K.Gr. 15 (He-TF (No Tracer)) 7,1 kg 380g amatol or 270g Pieric acid 465m/s
(TNTa for the Pieric Acid In Game x1,1, IRL x1,2, for the Amatol x1,26)
K.Gr.16 (He-TF (No Tracer)) 6,25 kg 700g Amatol 480m/s
With E.K.Z. 16/23, also available as SAHPE with the Lg.K.Z.m.V. (see above under AP)
L.F.K.Gr. (He-TF (No Tracer)) 7,18 kg 930g amatol (1,172 kg TnTa) 465m/s
(Pieric Acid ig x1,1=770g, IRL x1,2=840g) other fillers are 700g Pieric acid or 820g amatol with 75g Pieric acid.
Utility:
Kt. (Canister Shot (No Tracer)) 6,65 kg Steel/Leadballs 475m/s
F.Schr.96 (umg.) (Shrapnell-TF (No Tracer)) 7 kg 0,1 kg Blackpowder 465m/s
Works like a Crude WW1 AHEAD round, with a timed fuze mid flight ejecting the Steel/Leadballs, against Infantry and planes.
Filling of x300 10g Lead Balls or 220 Steel Balls (with steel balls 6,85 kg)
Some incendary effect by the pitch around the balls.
Br.Schr.Gr. (Incendary Shrapnell-TF (No Tracer)) 6,8 kg 0,167 kg Blackpowder 470m/s
6 Rows of 5 Segments of Incendary Pellets, Made of Bariumnitrate-Magnesium-Resin of 13g each.
Works like a Crude WW1 AHEAD round, with a timed fuze mid flight ejecting the Incendary Pellets onto the Airtarget.
K.Gr.16 (N) (Smoke (No Tracer)) 6,25 kg 0,4 kg Fp.02 and 0,1 kg Smoke mixture 480m/s
7,7 cm FK 16 L/35 (And derivatives)
Caliber: 77mm
Ammo: 77x230mmR
Fire Rate: ~15 rpm (In the Flak Mount up to 25 rpm)
Single Shot, Horizontal Sliding Breech block
Muzzle velocity: 545-602m/s
Weight: 1318kg
Mounting: Main Gun, Field Gun, AA Gun
Ammo Types: APHE, HE, Smoke, Shrapnell, Canister, SAPHE
Note:
The German WW2 Made drawings have for the plain HE grenades different weights, duo to new fuzes, the British source FROM 1918 is in that aspect more accurat, with the exception to the Shrapnell and APHE rounds!
(Amatol could also have a 1,26x TnTa.)
AP:
K.Gr. 15 m.P. m.L. (Aphe-T) 7 kg 230g Amatol 545m/s with 65mm/10m (has a tracer)
K.Gr.16 (Saphe (No Tracer)) 6,25 kg 700g Amatol 580m/s 30+mm/10m(Historical 20mm/600m)
With Lg.K.Z.m.V., also available as pure HE with E.K.Z. 16/23 fuze (see below under HE)
He:
K.Gr.15 (He-TF (No Tracer)) 7,1 kg 380 g Amatol or 270 g Picric acid 545m/s
(TNTa for the Pieric Acid In Game x1,1, IRL x1,2, for the Amatol x1,26)
K.Gr.16 (He-TF (No Tracer)) 6,25 kg 700g Amatol 580m/s
With E.K.Z. 16/23, also available as SAHPE with the Lg.K.Z.m.V. (see above under AP)
L.F.K.Gr. (He-TF (No Tracer)) 7,18 kg 930g amatol (1,172 kg TnTa) 540m/s
(Pieric Acid ig x1,1=770g, IRL x1,2=840g) other fillers are 700g Pieric acid or 820g amatol with 75g Pieric acid.
C-Geschoß (He (No Tracer)) 6,09 kg 550-600g Amatol 602m/s
(streamlined boat tail long range shell also usefull for AA)
Utility:
Kt. (Canister Shot (No Tracer)) 6,65 kg Steel/Leadballs 555m/s
F.Schr.96 (umg.) (Shrapnell-TF (No Tracer)) 7 kg 0,1 kg Blackpowder 545m/s
Works like a Crude WW1 AHEAD round, with a timed fuze mid flight ejecting the Steel/Leadballs, against Infantry and planes.
Filling of x300 10g Lead Balls or 220 Steel Balls (with steel balls 6,85 kg)
Some incendary effect by the pitch around the balls.
Br.Schr.Gr. (Incendary Shrapnell-TF (No Tracer)) 6,8 kg 0,167 kg Blackpowder 550m/s
6 Rows of 5 Segments of Incendary Pellets, Made of Bariumnitrate-Magnesium-Resin of 13g each.
Works like a Crude WW1 AHEAD round, with a timed fuze mid flight ejecting the Incendary Pellets onto the Airtarget.
K.Gr.16 (N) (Smoke (No Tracer)) 6,25 kg 0,4 kg Fp.02 and 0,1 kg Smoke mixture 580m/s
8,8 cm SK L/45
The gun is the 8,8 cm SK L/45 in MPL C/13 mounting, having 50mm armor angled 30°backwards and on the horizontal around 10° with 12mm thick sides.
-10° to +70° elevation, 360° traverse, a crew of 7 (on the vehicle)
around 40-60 shells placed in the vehicle sides like on the other AA vehicles of that time.
(It could also be an 10,5 cm Sk in that lafette or an 8,8 cm SK L/45 drilled out to 10,5 cm, it is not exactly visible in the picture and the writing on the photo is an forum identification, so unreliable with a grain of salt).
The gun itself is actually allready in game, tho with ww2 ammo.
The gun will recive 2 rounds:(Click the names to show)
AP:
HE:
The He (L/3,6 NOT L/3,8) existed both with and without Tracer (Leuchtspurhülse Nr.2)
(Kz. means Kopfzünder/Head/Impactfuze and Iz. Interner Zünder/internal fuze, the round has an special hardened steel ap head with a fuze under it).
(Sources in the main Post)
