i was looking around at vehicles in war thunder and one vehicle that i remembered was the german su-22 m4 premium… it got removed a bit ago and well it makes me sad because honestly if i had money i would definitely buy that over the tornado… it has more air 2 air missiles than the tornado… it has way plenty countermeasures flares and chaff unlike the tornado that only gets 56 flares that dispense from the wings making it near impossible to flare certain ir missiles in scenarios where su22 may have a chance… the su22 actually has guided missiles albeit with a not so great but still usable targeting view… but the tornado has boring old dumb bombs and promotes low level base bombers to play this thing and ruin that br in air rb. and personally im not really a fan of bombing things with dumb bombs at a br where guided weapons are possible. i also checked statshark and the su22 performs better than the tornado. the reason it got removed? because its copy pase of the exact same vehicle in the tech tree. so basically i have to grind my way to that br in the air tree with other things… then worry about spading it… then potentially buy a talisman which still would give me less rewards for using it compared to the premium su22 that got removed… honestly i think it should be brought back as a cas vehicle and the tornado can be kept as a base bomber for all i care
It got removed this week when store sale ended so you barely missed it.
R-60Ms tho.
56 flares are on the hull, on wings it gets pod with what, 600x CMs but its chaff only.
You wont be playing Su22 that much differently.
The guided missiles are more important for ground battles than for air
You say you would hate bombing style of tornado but youd be bombing in Su22 too.
Su22 was objectively bad premium, only really useful to those who wanted high BR CAS to their ground lineup without having to grind ground
If you want to to grind the TT in more fun way, swiss hornet (or rather premium hornets as a whole) is much better and much more fun
i literally want to use it as cas. i hate base bombing
and i dont feel like playing hornet. i think its a very toxic plane
theyre both on the pods
and also double pop. so you effectively have 28
same as TT tho C&P
Are they? I recall tornado having CM dispensers below the engines.
Or is that only F.3 or something like that?
Nevertheless point was more about their total count than means of dispension
i feel like youre missing the point…
How so.
i think those r vents
aim7p. plus its a higher br playing at top top tier

Dont do me like this man 😭
i think it might just be that british tornado the german one doesnt
thats possible, F3 is an ADF rather than an IDS
Amazing missile for 12.7
Nah, the frequency of uptiers isnt as bad as people make it out to be.
Ive been playing hornet a lot since march 22 and its perfectly fine, fun even.
11.0 su22 you have potential to see what 10.0? with hornet even in downtier youre facing pantsir and stuff
Right but i suppose yoire not going to grind air tree exclusively through ground battles?
if i was gonna grind in air rb id choose like a mig 23 or something