Ger. Leopard 2a8 no LWS?

Then you dont want even ground, you just want to have the advantage… as they would still be the exact same br.

There is barely an advantage here, the Merkava Mk.4M had trophy for ages, the Abrams and T-90M Arena got it earlier too. It would just be a temporary advantage over 1 Minor nation…

understandable

Personally i would have liked a STRV 123A more than a Leo 2A8NO even though its basically just a 2A7

but we know that copy pasting is the easy way

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So, there is an advantage for the lws, but barely for the APS… how does that makes any sense?

The difference is between adding a vehicle later and never adding a system for a tank. (As I assume if it doesnt get the LWS this cycle it will never until another version of it comes).

You are also assuming that a minor nation such as sweden would be getting two top tiers in a row, which looking at their timelines is questionable

Yet not impossible as the german ground top tier has stagnated for quite a while and now gotten the EMBT and L2A8 back-to-back.

Because the EMBT is not really a 13.3 vehicle at the same level as the 2a7, and germany is still a mayor, look how the minor nation that got the EMBT got sidelined.

Tbf, Germany is a major nation, Sweden a minor one

The last top tier Tank addition for Sweden was the STRV 122B+ which got added December 2023 so 3 YEARS ago

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And before that the plss was added in 2020

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It’s funny, it reminds me of that time people pointed out the first Puma IFV varient added to the game was missing the spike launcher, then a billion years later they added it “as a different varient” (it’s the EXACT same vehicle just with the launcher attached to it), and ofc spikes on it do not work…

Oh well its the average rules for thee but not for me, some nations get everything added at once, some get nothing.

well technically its not exactly the same vehicle since its the VJTF version

And the first one was added when Spikes werent in the game yet

Spike not working is a not German exclusive issue but on all ground platforms

Well the spikes came into the game later than the puma, and the puma without the launchers is a common configuration.

Also the VJTF is a distintive version

True. It’s been how many years already that it’s been broken?

If every tank in the game got their distinctive versions instead of modifications we’d have like a bajillion vehicles.

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dont recall them ever working

but what would have been the alternative? Germany not receiving the Puma for another few years until the Spike was added to the game?

besides i think the non spike version of the Puma is actually better than the VTJF one (at their respective BR) so its a win that both versions exist (gruanted i dont own either)

Not receiving the Puma. Literally. Stop rushing updates and put time and effort into pushing a finished, polished and complete update.

Considering how useless spikes are, the sole fact that regular Puma is lower br indeed makes it better lmao…

You do realize we are talking about Gajin XD

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And now Leo 2a8 is getting the same treatement…

Its a similar Bullshiterry with the CV 90 MKIV

only there no one knows why it got added
because none of the nordic countries bought it
Their next gen CV 90 versions are completely different

it is a pure display vehicle which was shown once for marketing by the company

Quick correction, current sources and statements say that sweden didnt actualy order APS systems