So here I want to discuss an important topic for me, and maybe for other US players, regarding Fox-2 missiles.
My main issue is that my missiles often feel not maneuverable enough and too easy to dodge. Currently, I’m also having problems with the AIM-9M’s seeker, which seems significantly worse compared to Fox-2 missiles from other nations.
Let’s take the AIM-9M and compare it to the R-73.
About a year ago, the AIM-9M had a very strong seeker, almost undefeatable in many cases. Today, that’s no longer true.
On the other hand, the R-73 used to have a weaker seeker but compensated for that with high maneuverability, creating a decent balance between the two. Now, however, things have changed. In my personal experience, the AIM-9M feels worse. Its seeker sometimes simply loses the target and flies off in a random direction.
As for the R-73, it now has improved IRCCM, strong maneuverability, and with the recent buffs, it’s become more powerful overall. This is starting to feel like a serious imbalance for American players. I often find myself thinking: “Why do they have something like this, and we don’t?”
In my opinion, this category is now unbalanced and needs attention.
I would suggest either adding a better missile or buffing the AIM-9M. If I’ve overlooked something, I apologize.
i wouldnt add a better missile to replace the AIM-9M since the next step is the AIM-9X and adding it or any modern 5th gen IR missile to planes for any nation is gonna break the top tier meta even more
9X will be the worst IR when added anyway. ASRAAM,IRIS-T,Python 5,PL-10 and MICA IR all outperform it.
R-74 will probably be worse the the 9X
Yeah and, than what would you offer?
Also, when there will be missiles like ASRAAM,IRIS-T,Python 5,PL-10 and MICA IR there will be block III
The seekers has not changed. It was just as flarable on introduction as it is now. The playerbase has finally understood how to defeat it, that’s all.
AIM-95 should have been added before the 9M anyway.
A buff would only come in the form of a lock range increase, which wouldn’t change anything for your problem.
9X-2 has DL which most of these lack.
For the base 9X that was made in the late 90’s and put into service in 2003 but against missiles of the same age it’s about the same with the improved variant of the Block 2.
And yk if they add an upgraded variant it could get the Gate Width reduction IRRCM like it has irl.
The AIM-9L is a literal joke.
K-74M when
The seeker gimbal rate has been lowered by close to 3x. You quite literally cannot launch the missile while turning or else the missiles itself simply cannot track the target quickly enough.
Huh, must have missed that one. Doesn’t change anything about its flare resistance though.
It most definitely does, as it makes it far harder to acquire a target after shutoff… Let alone track a target that’s simply turning.
Non really it deoends if they add an early or late block. Later block 9x are very much equals
The only fox-2s that could be added to American Jets at the moment, while still being within the capability of other Fox-2s are upgraded variants of the AIM-9M like the M-8 or M-9.
Alternatively, if the States really need something that badly, you could suggest the AIM-9R
AIM-95 exists.
Same seeker type as all other gate width missiles in-game and TVC close range performance.
The biggest problem with Aim-9M that they still havent fixed and it was reported 2 years ago is this:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/PX7CKrwWNGdr
If they fixed the 9M lock ranges. it would be a LOOOOT better than it is right now. Aim-9M should be the superior missile when used from further away, but can never lock at ranges where it would actually be felt
Correct me if Im wrong. But Block 2 is a 2008+ upgrade right?
But ASRAAM entered service in 1998, IRIS-T 2003 and Im not sure about the rest. So strictly speaking Block 1 would be the “same age” as the other missiles. Though even then. Block 2 is still playing catch-up and is quite a bit behind the others within their niches
I didn’t know the AIM-95 had irccm, given it was the early 1970s or so when it was developed. Though the AIM-9R may not be an aim-9x, its still a worthy consideration :D