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pretty sure it makes it a lot harder to overpressure from HE on the commander optics

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The real question being that we all need to know can she swim?

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She can swim, but only the 25mm and pure 30 mm versions, not the one with the ATGMs (apparently)

The primary issue being that it uses the one autocannon in the game that is worse than the Bushmaster II
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At least it gets ATGMs to supplement it unlike the Badger.

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Yikes I didn’t realize it was that anemic.

Midmaster having competition 🤮

Only the one with 25mm Sharpshooter turret can swim, the 30mm only variant is basically the fully equipped one just without ATGMs and still can’t swim.

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Propellers missing at the rear

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time to pitch it to japanese mod.go xD

It looks like they won’t upgrade this vehicle becuase it is pretty old. They need new gun platform with mainly anti-drone anti-CM capabilities.

Probably something like SkyShield but lighter and on lighter base for more cheap cost and mass production

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i dunno why but I can just imagine a Type 87AW turret on a Type 10 hull and anti drone stuff etc

Not exactly what you’re thinking but I suppose this is a good enough time as any to share these official Mitsubishi Electric patents for a dual gun/SAM turret that were considered in 1987.

It is suggested that Japan had knowledge of the Russian Tunguska when it entered service in 1986, something that didn’t make the rounds in the west until around 1989. The shock of this new combination SPAA certainly turned a few heads in the JSDF when the purely gun SPAAG Type 87AW had finished development during just that same year.

Two patents were applied for, one on the Type 87 RCV hull, and the other on what appears to be the Leopard 2. I am still not entirely sure the reason for this, as the Type 90 was well into the prototype phase by 1987, and was developed by the same Mitsubishi that created these patents.
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Regardless, we can see that the weapon system is largely composed of already in-service components such as the search and tracking radars from the newly introduced Type 87AW, and what seems to be an M61A1 Vulcan 20mm. The missiles are certainly a bit of a mystery, my best guess being the FIM-92A Stinger in specially designed launch boxes, but I do not have any supporting evidence for this theory, so they could also be undetermined.

Obviously these never progressed past the drafting phase, but I think they would be neat to see in a paper-only version of the Japanese tree or something, as they are very much a sort of “replacement” for the Type 87AW that unfortunately never materialized.

Source:
Type 87 self-propelled anti-aircraft cannon - BASI-KRAMER’s blog

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I’m still saddened the Guntank never got missiles to complement its guns

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Who knows, there is still time to add them, even just for experimental tests.

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Expanding on the OF-40 pictures a little bit since I haven’t seen it mentioned much else here. One visual change would be the lack of side skirts, which were removed due to the muddy terrain.

Trials

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Might still be classified (copium)

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What makes a guntank a guntank its such a strange name? Why even call it that?

Im going to be honest, i read guntank went to the the reply and was instantly disappointed it wasn’t actually guntank

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iirc it is the nickname of the Type 87
Like Abrams for the M1 etc, but informal

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