IIRC:
Good ERA and Great mobility (26 hp/t, 70kph max speed)
Mediocre firepower and gun handling.
It’s going to be a better Pakistaini T-80UD basically, New welded turret, more power engine, Relict like ERA everywhere, etc.
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Isn’t the ERA way better than Relict
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oops right, got my Russian ERAs mixed up, my bad!
There should be a 90mm V-150 in operational use in Thailand which would make better sense
Afaik this has a Cockerill Mk. III gun on the Cadillac Gage 1m turret. Wouldve been funnier if it had the Mk. III-A gun (in use with the Filipino LAV-300) since that one could fire APFSDS rounds but I digress lol
Also, if France is going to get the VL-MICA, Thailand might be able to get one as well!
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Tech trees don’t have limited space. And even if they did, Japan is no where near that amount. They don’t even have five lines in the ground tree that’s the current “max,” they only have four. Though, I do also prefer unique national models over generic ones, too.
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I’d much rather see the Japanese Type 03 though.
Wait an M163 for japan with an actual good track system?
Gaijin would never…
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Straight to 9.0
9.0? Looks like the first 13.0 Ground vehicle to me
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What is interesting is that TIFCS is 2nd get thermal while TTS only 1st
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Is it possible if we get M48A5PI at 9.0 (does this have thermals?) and M60A3TTS at 9.7 and M60A3TIFCS at 10.0? because I really want to play all Thai Pattons.
the M48A5PI, unless there’s been a Thai modernisation, is unstablised and would probably be 8.0/8.3 like the unstabed M60s or the German upgunned M48.
the M60A3 TTS would be 9.0 like the other TTS in game.
the M60A3 TIFCS would be at best 9.3.
As for what’s coming? Probably only the M60A3 TTS at this time going by the CM news post:
“So what’s coming for Japan? We’re bringing in the Commando Stingray (also for the USA), M60A3 TTS, M163 and… we are plotting one more tank too. You’ll have to keep an eye out for this one!”
(from here: Community Update No.7: Talking About What’s Coming Soon!)
Which to be completely honest is pretty disappointing.
It should be expected for sub-trees. Copy-paste is preferred over anything else, which has been especially egregious in cases like the “Hungarian” sub-tree that doesn’t include a single Hungarian aircraft like the Héja or the Sólyom. Thailand easily has another vehicles that they could be Japan’s fifth line, extending from 1.0-2.0 with their Type 76 AA and Type 92 car, to what we’re probably going to get in the upcoming updates. Though, copy-paste is going to be unavoidable with Thailand. Most of their vehicles are foreign, even including native modifications, with the TIFCS standing as an exception among the RISE (P) and TTS. The only place they have a bunch of native designs over foreign designs of the obscene amount of MLRS they have, and the numerous modifications they’ve made of sticking 20-mm auto and rotary cannons onto random trucks and their combination of Starstreak HVM and Igla-S onto light truck chassis.
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Well, Ukrainian not Russian. The ERA was made in the late 90s and adopted in 2003. It’s also very unique in how it works.
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I hope it is the M48A5PI upgrade with STAB and laser and I think it is perfect to fit 9.0 line up with others.
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I was referring to me mixing up Kontact-5 and Relict in my original post. Sorry if that was unclear! It appears that the forum hid the edit?
(I typed out “Kontact-5 like” instead of “Relict like”, I was trying to describe the Oplot in Warthunder terms/in relation to what we already have in game. Probably should have worded it better, my apologies).
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The m163 isn’t a bad system, the problem is it just barely works at its BR… Then in an uptier it’s massively outclassed, if you can learn to lead without the radar it’s not awful, you just need to tuck into cover and ambush aircraft on an incoming dive, an improved radar will definitely help players struggling with cas.
They are a bit artificially limited in logical progression. With a five line and 3 vehicles per line each rank limit that makes it very hard to just add everything in a way that makes sense.
Sure there’s folders, but there’s only so much foldering you can do that still makes sense. Even with one full Thai line it’s already going to be a mess of light tanks, MBTs, self propelled guns all in one with SPAA squeezed between Japanese options.
It’s not so much that things can’t fit, just that it becomes increasingly difficult to have progression make sense especially one you hit that 5 × 3 per rank limit and have to resort to folders.
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