General Japanese & Thai Ground Forces Discussion HQ

What spreadsheet do you mean btw? The one I got ( https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SsOpw9LAKOs0V5FBnv1VqAlu3OssmX7DJaaVAUREw78/pubhtml# ) doesn’t have any Japanese SAMs.

I had the same issue. Somehow the “SAM (IR/OPTICAL)” section doesn’t show all the time, at least for me, so maybe you were also having that problem.

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I ended up finding them here, but for some reason at least the forum preview it gives me while writing this is missing the “SAM (IR/OPTICAL)” section again.


I tried this link again, even when I open it the section is missing

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From the tab I took the screenshots in (and copied the link from) I had this selection that seems to be missing completely when I open the same link again

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Oh damn, I’ve never seen the IR/Optical tab there. And I don’t see it on the preview neither.

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Trying to find a video where we could see the Type 93 fire the missile and then see how it flies cuz it would help a lot convincing the report mods that the Type 93 indeed uses the improved Type 91 SAM. Found this instead, close enough?

PS: if anyone knows such a video or finds one, please out a link to the video in the report I made (can be found a bit above)

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I do like the idea of these bundles but I don’t like the execution of them. For example the flakpanzer iv ostwind ii ostfront and the Skink (Hell) are pure paper. I mean why didn’t they add the 2nd Canadian Armoured Brigade Version for the Skink? For the other tanks in the similar bundles I’ve heard it’s no longer unique tanks like the Stuart VI (5th CAD), M3A1 (USMC), and T-34 (1st Gv.T.Br.) but instead a mashup of different designs? Idk I liked the uniqueness of have the actual real life version but that’s just me.
For the Japanese bundle we could have one of the other spaa that was not implemented yet like the SPAAG Ki-To or the Ka-Mi SPAA.

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I think the only Japanese SPAAG that would fit the bill is the Ta-Ha, because the Ka-Mi SPAA shown here is a postwar construct.

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To be fair though, sub 10 km, most CAS planes don’t have the flight performance to notch in time when coming in hot, loaded with munitions. Not only would they need to notch, they’d need to change direction so IOG won’t get them.

That being said the 10 km range is concerning as I’d hope they add the 14 km version with improved motor. Otherwise the best combo will be IR + DL for stealth launches. ARH might still be useful against helicopters though since optical is still unreliable against anyone who is smart enough to stay somewhat low. Not multipath low, but low enough that optical won’t work

We tested it with a friend. Despite the Type 81 missiles being among the faster of the bunch, it was still very easy for him to either dip down and get the missile to hit the ground or notch. Keep in mind the missiles accelerate from zero and travel through dense air. Planes like Rafale or Typhoon will have absolutely no issue dodging them.

I really hope they add LOAL, or DL + IOG with the ability to fire the missile without an IR lock, to the IR Type 81 C, otherwise you’d have big issues taking down anyone past 7 kms, except for attack drones as they don’t get RWR.

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the Type 25 CTWV RCV and Type 24 ICV were promised its AHEAD/VT round as a “Internal report” by the developers

as well as RCV getting it’s telescopic commander sight’s to be corrected (also Internal report)

Gaijin has still yet to implement

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/ChlLOhbpIf2q

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It was never promised but only reported
Reports, even internal, can’t “promise” anything until there won’t be any special announcement about it by community manager or other official person

There is various bugs and issue’s spanning 3+ years that are set on “accepted”

Are they going to actually correct these issues? Or will they just ignore it for 0 reason

I only said that your claim about “promise” is false and only this, I am not Gaijin CEO to know any dev plans

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Well they did promise no top tier premiums and to not buy ur way to the top (meanwhile in todays day n age)

I was wondering if we had old photos proving it was a post war mod on a disabled tank if not this would be a cool event vehicle. I found some examples of rear mounted guns on working tanks.
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Hoping we get this bad boy at some point
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Small buff for type 89.
Type 89— the ability to load another missile without shooting the already loaded one has been added.
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Some changes regarding the Tan-SAM kai:

ARH missile

  • lowered drag
  • increased max range ( 10 km → 14 km)
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Radar

  • besides the normal 360 degrees search mode, the radar now has an area search mode (110 degrees horizontally), though it needs fixing as the entire radar antenna is rotating despite the area scan only being electronical
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  • the radar antenna supports are now modelled correctly
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  • the radar antenna doesn’t fold down when turned off - probably will be fixed in the future
  • radar got TWS ESA mode

Launcher

  • when operating the entire system from the TADS vehicle, only one launcher launches a missile, not both at once
  • when operating the entire system from the TADS vehicle, you can choose manually which launcher you wan’t to fire
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  • you can change the missile type without having to fire all the missiles of the previous type
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The are also some changes to the Anti-Air Interface, but that’s the case for all top tier AA.

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All it needs at this point is to fix the above mentioned issues (rotating antenna in area scan and the radar antenna not folding when turned off) and IOG + DL and LOAL for the IR missile.

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Bug report regarding the low visibility smoke that should be present on the SAM-1C missiles. There’s been a few reports already, but we gotta keep trying.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/SseJItTZLJdy

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it just got fixed, it now has it’s proper 14km range

It looks like it got less drag but the motor itself hasn’t been changed?