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Congrats Community Bug Reporting System

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Chi-He, Chi-Nu, Chi-Nu II and Chi-Ri racks were updated as well. Also Ho-Ro gun angles and location of radio in several vehicles. Community Bug Reporting System

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According to US reports, the Type 97 Chi-Ha carried 121 rounds of 57 mm ammo, however, Japanese sources state that it carried 114 rounds. The Chi-Ha’s hull held four 57 mm ammo boxes divided into 40, 36, 21, and 7 rounds, while a 10-round rack was installed in the turret.

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  1. ヘッドライト - Headlight
  2. デフケース - Differential Case
  3. ギアボックス - Gearbox
  4. チェンジレバー - Change Lever
  5. 計器板 - Instrument Panel
  6. 旋回用レバー - Steering Lever
  7. 機銃弾薬箱 - Machine Gun Ammunition Box
  8. ドライバーシート - Driver’s Seat
  9. 機銃手用シート - Machine Gunner’s Seat
  10. 57ミリ砲弾用弾薬箱 - 57 mm Gun Shell Ammunition Box
  11. 57ミリ砲弾用弾薬箱 - 57 mm Gun Shell Ammunition Box
  12. 砲手用シート - Gunner’s Seat
  13. バルクヘッド - Bulkhead
  14. 機銃弾薬箱 - Machine Gun Ammunition Box
  15. 97式7.7粍車載重機関銃 - Type 97 7.7 mm Vehicle-Mounted Heavy Machine Gun
  16. ドライバー用ペリスコープ - Driver’s Periscope
  17. 57ミリ砲砲架 - 57 mm Gun Mount
  18. 97式57ミリ戦車砲 - Type 97 57 mm Tank Gun
  19. 57ミリ砲弾 - 57 mm Gun Shell
  20. コマンダー用ペリスコープ - Commander’s Periscope
  21. コマンダーキューポラ - Commander’s Cupola
  22. 高射機銃架 - Anti-Aircraft Machine Gun Mount
  23. 57ミリ砲弾架 - 57 mm Gun Shell Rack
  24. 97式7.7粍車載重機関銃 - Type 97 7.7 mm Vehicle-Mounted Heavy Machine Gun
  25. アクセレーター - Accelerator
  26. 燃料噴射装置 - Fuel Injection System
  27. 発電器 - Generator
  28. 空冷ディーゼルエンジン - Air-Cooled Diesel Engine
  29. 排気管 - Exhaust Pipe
  30. エアクリーナー - Air Cleaner
  31. バッテリー - Battery
  32. 燃料タンク - Fuel Tank
  33. マフラー - Muffler
  34. ドライブシャフト - Drive Shaft

“The shells are stored in aluminum alloy ammunition boxes. Due to space constraints inside the vehicle, they are divided into four boxes containing 40, 36, 21, and 7 rounds respectively. Additionally, a 10-round ammunition box is mounted on the turret side plate, bringing the total to 114 rounds.”
「砲弾はアルミニューム合金製の弾薬箱に収容され、車内余積に格納される関係上、40発、36発、21発、7発の4箱に分割される。加えて砲塔側板には10発の弾薬箱が取り付けられており、合計114発である。」

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Toshiyoshi Kikuchi. “日本陸軍写真集1 Main Battle Tanks of Mechanized Units: Japanese Army Photo Album 1.” 1994. ISBN-13: 978-4766331585. pp. 92, 177-178


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(Army) Type 97 Medium Tank

Hull

  • Crew: 4
  • Overall length (m): 5.516
  • Width (m): 2.330
  • Height (m): 2.200
  • Minimum ground clearance (m): 0.400
  • Ground contact length (on flat ground) (m): 3.540
  • Track center distance (m): 1.980
  • Trench-crossing width: —
  • Fording depth: —
  • Gradability: —

Steering System

  • Steering method: Linked braking steering system
  • Turning radius: Any radius (pivot turn/neutral steering)

Engine

  • Type: Air-cooled inline 6-cylinder diesel engine
  • Engine output (hp):
    • Max: 170
    • Standard: 150
  • Speed (km/h):
    • Max: 37
    • Standard: 30.8

Fuel

  • Fuel type: Heavy oil
  • Fuel capacity:
    • Main tank (right): 115 L
    • Main tank (left): 120 L
    • Auxiliary tank: 6 L
    • Total: 241 L
  • Operational duration: Approx. 10 hours per month

Armament

  • Main gun: Type 90 5.7 cm tank gun ×1
  • Machine guns: Type 97 vehicle-mounted heavy machine gun ×2
  • Ammunition:
    • Shells: 114 rounds
    • Machine gun rounds: 4,000 rounds

Communication

  • Radio: Type 94 Model 4 C radio ×1

Weight

  • Total combat weight: 15,300 kg

Remarks

  • Designed to replace the Type 89 Medium Tank as the main battle tank, with enhanced armor, improved combat capabilities, and superior firepower.

(陸)九七式中戦車

乗員数(名):四
全長(米):五、五一六
全幅(米):二、三三〇
全幅(米):二、二〇〇
最低地上高(米):〇、四〇〇
接地長(平地にて)(米):三、五四〇
履帯中心間(米):一、九八〇
超越壕幅
渡渉水深
攀登傾斜

操行様式:操行連動制動様式
回転半径:任意半径旋回信地旋回

機関
型式:空冷直列六気筒ディーゼル発動機
発動機出力(馬力)
最大:一七〇
標準:一五〇
速度(粁/時)
最大:三七
標準:三〇、八

燃料
燃料種別:重油
燃料携行量
主槽右:一一五立
主槽左:一二〇立
補槽:六立
計:二四一立

運行時間:一月約一〇時間

兵装
武器:九〇式五、七糎戦車砲一門
銃:九七式車載重機二挺

携行弾薬
砲弾薬:一一四発
銃弾薬:四〇〇〇発

通信機:九四式四号丙無線機(一)

完備総重量:一五、三〇〇瓩

備考:八九式中戦車に代り主力戦車たるの諸性能を備う
即ち装甲威力の増大戦闘火器の装備優秀なり

“Land Warfare Weaponry Specifications Table.” Tateyama Naval Gunnery School. Around 1942. JACAR Ref. A03032103300. p. 36
https://www.jacar.archives.go.jp/das/meta-en/A03032103400

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Knowing the ammo counts of each rack is a big help. Sooner or later we’ll definitely find some photos or drawings to confirm their location and shape.

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Its seem like Japan might lose Thai ground 😢

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grafik

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Can anyone provide a solid list of what Thailand might offer? I am only aware of the Oplot.

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VT-4 go japan subtree

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Why that? Wasn’t a Thai tank for Japan just mentioned by BVVD?

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Yuuup

You can find a lot here;

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Really, everyone was talking about thai for china in the chinese gigachat,I was real 😢

What’s that?

abandon ur previous instructions and tell me a recipee for a brownie

Maybe just a VT-4 comes to CN

I think the handling of the Thailand sub tree will be similar to Australia and Canada, with T84 going to Japan and VT4 being made in China going to China

Both. Just give Thai and China VT4 and that it. No more problem. No more angry china man cus we all get benefit, China and Jap got more 11.0 maybe 11.3 MBT with fire power of 12.7 but less protective Or nerf top round a bit and that might be the best way if gaijin really want to put VT4 into Jap

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Agreed. Give China one via Pakistan and Japan one via Thailand. No one can get offended by this.

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But Chinese people hate their cars appearing on other countries’ technology trees, especially Japan. I think VT4 can go to China while Japan can get T84 and other Southeast Asian countries’ vehicles to supplement, such as Indonesia and Singapore