Also true, however I find the 37mm ammo rack to be more of a risk regardless.
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If the earlier tank guns came with 2x magnification sights, then that’s practically all IJA tank gun sights reported. Only ones left are those 120mm naval guns on Chi-Has, which might be too difficult to find.
I just hope they will be fixed faster than the sights on long 75mm guns. Chi-Nu’s sights were fixed in couple of months, but these have already taken a year…
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/TkrAKWQNKqti
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I forgot about the gun sight on the American tanks used by JGSDF. Their M4A3E8s might have had 4-8x gun sights. These became a standard in American use after the war, when they were selling away all the none M4A3 tanks. I don’t know if the US M4A3 76mm is supposed to be a war time modification or post-war, but the Japanese one is definitely post-war. Even JGSDF M24 might have had these.
Where could we possibly find JGSDF Chaffee and Sherman manuals?
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I’m pretty sure it’s post war because of the lack of smoke grenade launchers and iirc slower turret traverse than other 76 Shermans
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According to the engineer who developed the gun sight for the Type 61 tank, the US-made tanks owned by the JGSDF were equipped with either the M71 telescope with 5x magnification or the M83 telescope with variable magnification of 4x-8x. There were also considerations to equip the Type 61 with an improved version of the M83 telescope.
J1-M83 Direct Telescopic Sight
- Manufacturer: Topcon, 90 mm tank gun sight for medium tanks
- Magnification: 4x to 8x
- Field of view: 13° to 6°30′
The JSDF uses tanks supplied by the US. These US-made tanks are equipped with M71, M83, and M85 telescopes. The tank spare parts are manufactured domestically in Japan, and the gun sights are produced and repaired by Japanese optical equipment manufacturers. The supply and repair of the M71 and M83 telescopes are handled by Ofuna Optical Instrument Manufacturing Co., Ltd. A modified version of the M83 telescope, the prototype J1-M83 telescope, was developed. However, since other prototype sighting telescopes offer even higher performance, the adoption of this sighting telescope is expected to be discontinued.
— Yasufumi Emori, former member of the Optical Section, 1st Research Institute, Technical Research and Development Institute, Ministry of Defense. “The Optical Weapons and Their Usage (Part 1)”
“兵器と技術 Weapons and Technology (177)” edited by Japan Defense Equipment Industry Association, 1962, pp. 2-10.
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If both sights were used, then I suppose it can at least be send as a suggestion. I don’t think they’d want to add such thing as modification only for this one tank.
Now I’m interested to learn more about Japanese tank gun sight history. I find it curious how ST-A1 and 2 have 8-16x sights (at least in WT), but Type 61 goes back to 4-8x sights. Is there something about that in the same book?
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I was reading through the japanese wikipedia page on the Type 61 and I found something interesting.
Says here that an APFSDS shell was prototyped and tested for the Type 61. There’s no source given for this statement in particular, so maybe it is tucked away in one of the sources? I imagine 90mm APFSDS wouldn’t be terribly useful but it’d be kinda cool.
Edit: the “M332A1 HVAP-T” is an APCR shell, likely the one found on the M47. I didn’t recognize the name at first. Not the dart in question obv.
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Talking about sights, is the sights of type 90 wrong, I research type 90’s sometime ago, I remember it’s wrong in our game.
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i think the lowest magnified is 1x, but since gaijin doesn’t do 1x on medium/mbt it got the 8.8x
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Not fair😤
Where does 8.8x come from? Why can’t it be 1.9x, which is the lowest in game?
“Just because”
I don’t understand why they can’t do it. Tbh the policy with sights is weird in WT
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Apparently Chi-To Late’s ammo racks are going to be fixed in the coming big update and there are hopes for some others as well. So far we have managed to report Chi-Ri, Chi-To Late, Chi-Nu and Chi-He. Strangely enough Chi-Has have proven the most difficult.
Perhaps some document or book somewhere contains a proper drawing, but so far we haven’t found anything like that. Instead I’ve been scraping together photos and some parts from video. Any help would be welcome. Below is what I found about Chi-Ha Kai. The original 57 Chi-Ha is even more difficult.
The turret racks in game are almost like they should be. Only the right side ready rack should be for 3, instead of 5.
In the hull the central rack by the gearbox is correct. Also the 8 round rack by the wall is kind of correct, but it should be by the right side, instead of left.
Large portion of the ammo is actually stored at the left back corner. I found two photos of it from two separate tanks, but neither of them show it fully. It should contain about 30 rounds.
So far that’s about 87 out of 100 rounds, depending on how many exactly there are in the rear rack.
Rest of the main gun ammo was probably stored in the two boxes on the floor. Then again they could as well be for machine gun ammo. In either case it’s too difficult to estimate their capacity.
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Thank you for your hard work. I’d love to contribute somehow.
I can contribute knowledge for vehicles not yet in the game))
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According to Type 90 (B) specification, the lowest magnification of gunner’s sight is 1x.
That of type 90 was not archived.
Type 90
Type 90 (B)
Spoiler
According to this table, the commander’s sighting periscope has 3x zoom low mag system and 10x zoom high mag system.
The gunner’s sighting periscope has a 1x zoom observation system and a 10x aiming system.
I couldn’t find whether the low/high mag system and the observation/aiming system can be switched continuously or not.
There is also a 12x zoom aiming telescope that can be used by the gunner.
The thermal imager may have a software zoom function, although the magnification itself is not shown. There are 3 FoV modes: wide view of 7.6°x10.1°, narrow view of 2.7°x3.6° and magnified narrow view of 1.3°x1.8°. The magnified narrow FoV mode has approx half the FoV of the narrow view mode, so it has twice the magnification. Assuming that the narrow FoV mode has a 10x zoom like other high-mag modes, the magnified narrow FoV mode has a 20x zoom.
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🫡 😤
Type 89 ifv armour hole! Found holes above the gun and sides. This means you can die from the front from 7mm.
I made a bug report:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/S0mdc7YCW1OM
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Another update without new thing, yeah~~ 🥲
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Just another day of forgotten nation
not a bug, on purpose
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