one image didnt mean that it will not be added
Not to be ‘that guy’ but… we can just get both.
Type 87 is currently 8.3. AWX (1978) is worse, but still likely to be 8.0 unless it loses the tracking radar (which still seems to be there, no search though). M163 is 7.3, and with the change from radar to passive tracking I could see it maybe go to 7.7 or stay at 7.3.
Either way that’s two new SPAAs that can be used as backups for existing ones, in future 7.7-8.0 lineups with Thai additions, or if the TVADS gets 7.3, a fantastic addition to the existing 7.3 lineup.
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The prototype vehicles could fill all ranks.
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There aren’t really enough Japanese prototype SPAA to guarantee a complete SPAA line. Maybe Type 94 (Type 2) in low tier but the Ta-Se already occupies 1.7, the Ta-Ha could maybe fit in between the Duster and SUB-I-II, AWX 1978 around 7.7-8.0, and CCV perhaps around 10.7-11.0 because of the APFSDS. There are a few left, but definitely not enough for “all ranks” as you say. Hence why Thailand can bring some new AA with MANPADS and TVADS to the tree.
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Is it possible to has so high turret rotation speed with just man drive?
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I didnt mean spaa only
Even an SPAA for 7.3-7.7?
Of course, but SPAA is just one example of why Japanese prototypes can’t fill ALL niches. Point being, Japan needed a subtree sooner or later, and Thailand in my eyes is a worthy candidate that has a lot to offer for most parts of the tree (although high tier and late mid tier to be sure).
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The Ostwind II and the Zerstorer 45 have no pictures or even blueprints, just a written description
I already responded that it’s a good idea for the lower BR’s specifically where they are lacking
11.3-12.0 adding Thailand ground forces to that BR will make sure they don’t fix their own domestic equipment. Which mind you there’s tons of stuff missing there. The TKX and type 10 themselves have 6 variants between the 2 all of them very capable. Adding a T-84 to their top tier lineup incentivizes gaijin to not fix their equipment.
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I probably did a mistake there. Chi-Ha and even Type 89 might have had two handwheels, but finding a proper source is a pain. It’s infuriating how few photos there are from inside these vehicles. I’ve been trying to look for a Japanese book for this.
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we will introduce the performance of the prototypetype87 anti-aircraft gun.this vehicle was based on the body of the type61tank,and was equipped with a Japanese-developed enemy search and tracking radar in an all-round rotating turret.Teatswere conduced using the completed prototype vehicle,but the heavy weight of the turret meant that the type61tank could not demonstrate sufficient mobility.so it was decided to base it on the body of the type74tank.
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I mean if you have documents supporting things like the second handwheel for the Chi-Ha Kai, and the reasoning for the Chi-Nu to have electrical-powered traverse, we can at least argue for a buff
7.3 BR and without a radar
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In Chi-Ha Kai the handwheels were definitely there. Too bad most documents don’t bother to mention such detail or it’s in Japanese, so finding it from all the text is a pain.
In this photo the traverse mechanism itself is there on both sides, but gunner’s wheel is off.
9:30 and 11:30.
From I-Go and Chi-Ha there is even less, although they say this show was well researched.
Even Type 2 Ka-Mi had two horizontal traverse wheels.
Obviously manual traverse got too slow for what they wanted. The electric traverse is mentioned in multiple documents and it’s in game.
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2 traverse wheels inside of Chi-Nu
But need to say that it is very doubtful that developers will increase the speed of rotation only basing on fact of 2 traverse wheels without any numbers of actual possible turret rotation with man drive
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Where can I find this magazine?
Those small pictures show Chi-Nu’s interior, including the folding ammo rack doors.
https://x.com/nobunavy/status/858633748094492673
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Nice find!
Is that an image of a Japanese LVT(A)-5?
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I haven’t seen mention of a supercharged Chi-Nu engine ever before. It certainly makes sense for that to exist if they were going to make more Chi-Nus and Chi-Nu II. Japan didn’t have tank factories to massproduce multiple different tank models at the same time. Only Mitsubishi and Hitachi had the capacity. Other options were Chi-To production version and the smaller diesel engined Chi-Ri.
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