I’m intrigued on what the the To-Ku and Wild Tiger are
Very nice tree btw
The TKX isn’t removed, it’s just renamed to the TKX-0003 early and late.
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The “Wild Tiger” were a few Thai armored cars produced around 1918~ for the Wild Tiger Corps, a short-lived royal guard separate from the Thai Army and Navy. It was first mentioned by @BSpiel8-live in this earlier post and due to the lack of any further information that I could find, I don’t have any idea what it is beyond what Spiel already stated.
The To-Ku was one of the late-war projects that were either under construction or had their parts under construction by the end of the war. It would perform pretty much identically to the Ka-Chi aside from being a bit slower, with the gimmick being its hull-mounted 25 mm. Though, an amphibious line and a heavy tank line would both require Gaijin to remodel both the current Ka-Chi and Ro-Go as unit-specific tanks, like the Ha-Go Commander (4th tank regiment, 1st tank group) and the Chi-He (5th regiment, 1st tank division), which I would suggest remodeling the Ka-Chi as a 16th SNLF Yokosuka (which was the only unit the Ka-Chi were actually deployed to) and the Ro-Go as a Chiba Tank School tank. But, since that would ruin the specialness of those tanks, it’s doubtful Gaijin would ever do something like that.
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I always wondered why it’s not shortened to TKX-3 instead. At least for the STBs I know that they’d also have “STB-000X” naming, yet it’s shortened to STB-X instead.
STB-3s name as written on the vehicle as “STB-0003”
Maybe I should instead ask where the shortened names come from…
Thank you very much for the info, these would be great to have.
I don’t have a Discord server for it. I made the list by scanning through the Wikipedia pages for a basic list of vehicles, then scanning through both his thread and the Siam-Thailand Lineups For Japanese Tech Tree thread, and then looked through more credible third-party websites for actual specific information, or taking directly from suggestions that have already been made for the vehicles.
Part of it was already done through the work I did in the All First World War Vehicles thread, and an earlier incomplete list that was going to be done for a Japan-South Korea-Thailand megatree, before I gave up on that after spending about a week trying to finish the Bluewater list.
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The short name comes from the Type 90s and Gaijin already choosing to call the Type 10 prototypes “TKX.” It’s just like that because that’s probably would they would go for, and calling it TKX rather than new tank no. 3 or shin tank no. 3 is a lot more identifiable. TKX-1-000# was used by the Type 90 prototypes, instead, with STC just being a fake name based off of the earlier Type 61 and 74 prototypes being called STA and STB, respectively.
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Oh alright then, I suppose I’ll just continue posting in this thread, as I certainly have some other things I have yet to share that may be of interest. Perhaps later tonight I will do some more research on Thai jeep-mounted anti-aircraft MLRS systems and make a subsequent post regarding it.
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There are a few missing. But overall amazing work great job man!
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I know I’m missing the Th.Bao 21/Scorpion and the Th.Bao 32/Stingray that they stuck wood onto, which could work as premiums. Are there other ones that I’m missing?
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the various komatsu carriers
Type 96 APC (both grenade launcher and ATGM one)
EDIT:
didn’t see CCV, but it should be a tech tree vehicle
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Tbh, Komatsu LAV with Type 01 LMAT as well as the CCV should be Tech-Tree vehicles and not get locked behind a premium barrier.
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I purposely left out both of those. I haven’t been able to find any confirmation that the LMAT is actually attached to the LAV, rather than just being completely supported/carried by the soldier himself and thus not actually a piece of the vehicle.
I left out the Type 96 WAPC for the same reason I left out the AAV7A1, being that they’re just too weak to be stuck at anything other than 2.0-3.0. Even with how small Japan’s potential is, I don’t think its necessary to stick vehicles from the turn of the century around those early BRs. A general unwritten rule I have when making these hypotheticals is that vehicles pass 1940-1945 that are armed only with 12.7 mm, or smaller, or otherwise have generally ineffective and anti-infantry focused armaments such as 40 mm grenade launchers are not added to the trees. They are rarely, if ever, necessary, and otherwise break both the aesthetic and open the floodgates to every random APC or reconnaissance car with anything larger than a rifle being added. The Japanese one doesn’t display that unwritten rule I have effectively due to the lack of vehicles that fit that criteria in the first place, but my incomplete Soviet WW1-interwar and USA WW1-WW2 trees display that a lot better. In the former, the BA-64D and the BA-64 with the PTRS serve as the latest available armored cars, while in the former, vehicles such as the unarmored LVTs, and the later LVTPs and AAV7 are not included whereas the armored LVTs and the sole LVTP-5 with a M19 turret are.
Though, that’s just a personal opinion. Given Gaijin’s track record, I doubt they would be against adding it. In that case, the Type 96 WAPC and the AAV7 would probably be added somewhere between the Ka-Mi and the M24, in the current in-game tree, while the Type 96 WAPC would be stuck after the Ke-Ho/Ke-Ni Kai and the AAV7 would be stuck after the To-Ku in my hypothetical tree.
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Btw out of curiousity - Would TH 301/A4 also be a option for the Thai Sub-tree?
It was developed and built in germany by Thyssen Henschel but underwent trials in thailand (same trials the stingray and other Light/Medium Tanks underwent in ~1986).
Spoiler: Images of TH 301/A4 during its' trials in Thailand (circa 1986)
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Technically yes, it can also be suggested, but anything is the Devs decision.
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Apparently I had the photo since 2019 I didn’t even realize it was the TKX-0006.
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Even uploaded it here. Maybe there are more things that upload there you guys are trying to find the photos of?
Not exactly what I meant, but still very interesting.
But what I wanted to ask was why “STB-0003” is shortened to “STB-3”, and if there is any reason the same isn’t done to “TKX-0003” to call it “TKX-3”
And you won’t find this confirmations because yes it is not special version of LAV but just simple vehicle where soldiers took some LMAT
But still no problem to use it
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Because I haven’t seen that image of the STB-0003 before, but I have seen the images of the TKX-1-000# before.