I am really doubt that it is modification because of photos of Type 87 96-5264 where any MG is missing.
It might be “hand placed” mg on roof but more photos is needed to find out.
I am seriously concerned about this because there are very many cases of “new modification discovery” where due to an illusion it seems that a photo of a new vehicle has been found.
As an example I can remember this is “Type 60 APC with M42 turret”
or “NBC vehicle with Type 16 turret”
I remember Saryn talking about it, fucking nunce he is.
He is one of the biggest sources of misinformation in the forum.
but it’s possible that it might be a hand placed gun on the vehicle.
If it was a illusion with a second vehicle behind it which vehicle would fit that size since the Type-87 is quite a tall vehicle.
I wouldn’t be so angry to person for mistake, especially that it was found out that this was an illusion
No… there is another candidate for this status tbh… (and I don’t mean you of course)
It is good question and I don’t have answer for it. But given the availability of other photos of this SPAA where the machine gun is missing, and the awkward angle of this one photo I would consider this to be an illusion at least until other higher quality photos with this machine gun appear.
It’s not just one occasion.
The things Saryn has lied about.
F-4EJ kai (Especially ser no. 07-8431) being used as a test platform for the GPS guided bombs,
F-4EJ Kai 431 and F-4EJ 301 having a navigation computer
F-4EJ Kai (Especially ser no. 07-8431) having carried AAM-4’s despite not showing any actual proof.
ASM-2 being capable of tracking ground targets
F-15DJ having a ECM equipment
F-15J(M) variant having a IRST sensor tested
UH-1B with Type-64 MAT missiles being tested
T-2 being compatible with ASM-1’s
T-2 having a ground radar function
T-2 having GCS-1
the F-104J with AIM-9L’s
Type-74 and Type-10 having ERA bricks allocated for them.
Type-10 optional composite armour upgrade
Type-90 getting the Type-10 rounds
that’s just for starters.
I don’t like people spreading false information on the Forums, either it being in the old or current forum. It takes away that some nations don’t have videogame balance in mind for their military.
There is proof in Books / Magzines and a possible Pilot interview.
not exact same aircraft, however;
Cannot be proven nor disproven
Typical issue with this image because of which almost everyone was talking about JDAM on F-4EJ Kai
It doesn’t have navigation computer? Tbh I am doubt about that but have no info. It is very weird.
It is issue of this suggestion: Mitsubishi F-4EJ Kai ADTW - The Super Kai Phantom
In some magazines was phrase about testing XAAM-4 on F-4EJ Kai but without any photo and I suppose it was typo in magazine (which was repeating at other magazines)
Actually, it has
But it was tested
Here is post in X by one Japanese user what describes tests of Japanese heli armament with books by NDL. He has post about testing 12.7mm gun, Type 64 MAT, 106mm RR gun. But unfortunetaly NDL books is available only in Japan
So probably we are close to get info that it really was tested… just if something go to the NDL library and physically got a copy…
https://x.com/Panda_51/status/1616827773531885569
Typical issue based on photos of T-2 with ASM-1
Actually it has A/G (air to ground ) and GM (ground mode) so it is true but another thing that A/G modes in 1970s planes is not same as A/G mode in game at modern planes.
Was all of that Saryn claims?
Like, Type 74’ ERA looks like were planned but haven’t done. For Type 10 idk
Also Type 10 from documents has 3 armor upgrade sets but unfortunately here isn’t any photo and looks like that armor left at documents only
For Type 90 with Type 10 rounds there were rumors based on some Daikin data but looks like it was cancelled or only rumors.
I mean, all of that is typical issues that was spread on the forum and I am very not sure that it was done by Saryn. Here is people who talked more non-sense things than all of that like LWS on Type 99 or T-2’s RWR
Blockquote "The things Saryn has lied about.
It is true that I don’t have clear proof of them actually carrying JDAMS except the few times they were showed during exhibition, where a F-4EJ and also a EJ Kai were equipped with JDAM bombs on the weapon rack.
Only things I had going for is that the F-4EJ 301 (and possibly the EJ Kai 431 too due to it also being overhauled with a navigation computer in the WSO position,) was used as a aerial launch platform for the TACOM UAV drones. I also know that JASDF procured 27 JDAM kits for testing, although it has not be mentioned which aircraft it was being used on. Yes it could have been used by the F-2, and it’s probably the case.
As previously described, TRDI started the
TACOM program based on the requirement by
JASDF in 1995. In the contract of the program,
FHI designed the system and built six UAVs,
GCS, GSE and the F-4EJ conversion kits. They
also conducted wind tunnel tests, Radar Cross
Section (RCS) tests, structural tests, hardwarein-the-loop simulations, and integrated
functional tests using the real UAV and GCS.
Mitsubishi Heavy Industries was the other
contractor to design and build the F-4EJ
conversion kits to carry and command the UAV
for the program.
Following the contract, the TACOM was
delivered to TRDI and evaluated in the
engineering ground and flight tests between
1997 and 2001 conducted by TRDI with a
support by JASDF. The ground test included
mechanical and electrical checks, ground
vibration test and recovery test. In the flight test
program, the F-4EJ compatibilities and captive
flight tests (CFT) were performed as well as the
evaluation of the four key technologies. The
first fully autonomous UAV flight took place on
May 7, 1999. The system has finally
accumulated 22 F-4EJ flights including 5
independent UAV flights.
The TACOM evaluation program was
completed in 2001 with satisfactory results.
Based on this experience, JDA has just started
the follow-on UAV program in 2004.
It should be noted as well that Japan did purchase 27 JDAM kits all the way back in 2005, however, it is not specified if a aircraft was ever equipped with such systems for tests or use.
JDAM bombs fitted on the external racks to the F-4EJ/EJ Kai phantom
(also those varaints of the EJ and EJ Kai do have navigation computers.)
F-4EJ 301 WSO seat
WSO seat of F-4EJ Kai 431
as for comparison standard EJ Kai WSO seat
*ASM-2 being capable of tracking ground targets
Standard ASM-2? no it probably couldnt due to it being a IR imaging based,
ASM-2(b) in theory could since it uses a thermal imaging seeker
(Courtesy of the forum post about the ASM-2B Type 93 Air-to-Ship Guided Munitions (ASM-2B) - Suggestions / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum )
Then there is a Interdiction Escort planned for the DJ that’s being worked on.
UH-1B with Type-64 MAT missiles being tested
I only have this from Aviation Information, March 1967 issue
(“JGSDF began researching equipment for armed helicopters as well as enhancing the air mobility system by helicopter. Although this research started in 1959, it is now possible to put a .30-caliber machine gun on the H-13 helicopter, and it will be possible to put an anti-tank missile ATM-1 on it. As for the H-13, research is planned to be carried out with a policy to install 2.75-inch rocket’s this year, we are also planning to continue to put these on the HU-1 (UH-1) medium-sized helicopter as well. Since armed helicopters can take off and land from anywhere, they can act with ground troops at any time and support them closely and promptly with various equipment according to the purpose. Even in the bad weather, in which fixed wing aircraft can not fly or attack, the helicopter can attack and fly swiftly even in places such as valleys. In addition, it has characteristics such as hovering or the ability to make various attacks using three-dimensional mobility, and in operation it is used as aerial cavalry, in addition to reconnaissance, alert and battle, medical evac, and close air support with rockets or missiles as the weapons of choice, it is said that it is possible to do effective joint operation with a high speed ground unit. In response to these demands, countries such as France, West Germany, the Soviet Union, and the United States have also started experimenting in helicopter weaponry and tactics. In particular, the United States is not only merely arming their helicopters, but also experimenting with fast and heavily armed helicopters. The JGSDF also wants a high-speed heavily armed helicopter in support of ground troops as a future direction, research is proceeding as a problem after the 4th defense plan.”)
T-2 being compatible with ASM-1’s
Reason why I think it could use them is because it has the switch in the cockpit and in the external pylons to be fitted with them. Although it has to be noted that according to the flight manuals it could not use them.
Cockpit of the Mitsubishi T-2
Pylon of the Mitsubishi T-2 Blue impuse
Manual of the T-2
Manual of the F-1
here have a FS-T2 with ASM-2’s
In summation, yes I could be wrong about that.
T-2 having a ground radar function
As far I know, I have never mentioned about it before since I wasn´t really sure myself if it had that feature or not, It could be that it has Surface scanning radar where it can could lock on to surface targets. But as far I know off, I have not mentioned it yet to my knowledge. if so then my apologies.
T-2 having GCS-1
There is a picture of a T-2 with GCS-1 bombs, although how it´s supposed to use it I am not sure of it.
this T-2 might have been modified with a ballistics computer to operate it if it was used in testing but I don’t know much about it and am still doing research about it.
the F-104J with AIM-9L’s
Here is a instance of a F-104J carrying AIM-9L
Also I would like to upload more and show my side of the images in question regarding your points.
But as of now am nowhere close to my home to do so.
About the Type-10 all I know is from the documents that it was assigned to them but I have no idea what they look like nor what their performances are.
I am aware that I can get things wrong and I got wronged often in the past, and still get somethings wrong to this day. I take note in those things and learn from it.
On that note, you don’t have any information on Mai’s claim of uparmored Chi-Nus by chance?
SENSHA: [WT] Type3 Chi-Nu
Forgot about this photos, sorry
No. I have never heard about any uparmored Chi-Nu and probably it is not true also but won’t say 100%.
The only thing what can be called “uparmored Chi-Nu” is Chi-Nu equipped with Chi-To turret but I guess this one wasn’t mentioned here
There weren’t, I suggest take Mai’s claims with a grain of salt.
He has been wrong just like Saryn on multiple occasions.
as for example with the Ho-Ri and the Type-61 with a Skysweeper AA system mounted on to it.
I don’t see what this hate on Saryn is about now. So far he’s been really helpful. On your earlier list of misinformation, most of it wasn’t misinformation at all.
And besides that, mistakes can happen. It’s not intentional misinformation to make mistakes.
“Was all of that Saryn claims?”
No but these are one of the more notable ones that come to mind.
One of the other claims he mentioned were about the new CTWV RCV getting the AHEAD munitions for their primary arnament.
and that there was a prototype SPAAG using the 25mm guns from the Navy.
gaijin themselves said theres a internal report about that when the RCV came but idk if it went further than that
Because we actually know that it was purchased by JGSDF and only Bushmaster users in JGSDF is Type 24 ICV and Type 25 RCV so Saryn said total true here lol
It is not “AHEAD” but Air burst but this rounds are pretty similar especially for game realisation that’s why I also sometimes call it “AHEAD”
I do hope gaijin adds these official designations to the game
on JP localisation it is this, whilst eng is just ICV P and RCV P
(or could put it as CTWV ICV || Type 24 ICV (P), CTWV RCV || Type 25 RCV (P)) (or remove the (P) since idk if any changes were made to the official production ones)
Me along a lot of others who know him have a big issue with that guy.
that’s all you need to know.
He has been spreading missinformation about Japanese equipment, misleading people or hyping it up to be more than it actually is.
which often lead to people claiming stuff where IRL it didn’t have.
To be honest half of your claims of his lie are false…
Can’t think of a Japanese one to use these, but Indonesia mounted these to WC51 trucks
God, I wish.
