Hard to say, Pythons on the Spyder seemed to not work properly, and Derbys don’t pull enough in closer ranges and at longer ranged it has the same issue as any other ARH missile - it triggers RWR so you just notch and chaff it easily.
Tan-SAM kai has the Type 81 C IR that we all know and love, sadly still has a very limited range. The ARH could easily take on targets up to 10 kms away but just as with Derby - easily notched and chaffed.
Don’t know which one is better, but the Tan-SAM at least has an almost 100% kill probability at ranges 0.5km to 4 km.
Considering the thai use the vt4 and most likely bought apfsds for that tank and if the chinese can be used in shorter autoloaders then they mostnlikely use it for both no?
Is there any improvement for shooting the IR version btw other than radar slaving. Since it seem to get no datalink(in the missile sheet atleast, didn’t test it on test server), we might not be able to shoot at low IR signature target like Heli in LOAL like other systems.
I had the same issue. Somehow the “SAM (IR/OPTICAL)” section doesn’t show all the time, at least for me, so maybe you were also having that problem.
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I ended up finding them here, but for some reason at least the forum preview it gives me while writing this is missing the “SAM (IR/OPTICAL)” section again.
I tried this link again, even when I open it the section is missing
From the tab I took the screenshots in (and copied the link from) I had this selection that seems to be missing completely when I open the same link again
Trying to find a video where we could see the Type 93 fire the missile and then see how it flies cuz it would help a lot convincing the report mods that the Type 93 indeed uses the improved Type 91 SAM. Found this instead, close enough?
PS: if anyone knows such a video or finds one, please out a link to the video in the report I made (can be found a bit above)
I do like the idea of these bundles but I don’t like the execution of them. For example the flakpanzer iv ostwind ii ostfront and the Skink (Hell) are pure paper. I mean why didn’t they add the 2nd Canadian Armoured Brigade Version for the Skink? For the other tanks in the similar bundles I’ve heard it’s no longer unique tanks like the Stuart VI (5th CAD), M3A1 (USMC), and T-34 (1st Gv.T.Br.) but instead a mashup of different designs? Idk I liked the uniqueness of have the actual real life version but that’s just me.
For the Japanese bundle we could have one of the other spaa that was not implemented yet like the SPAAG Ki-To or the Ka-Mi SPAA.
To be fair though, sub 10 km, most CAS planes don’t have the flight performance to notch in time when coming in hot, loaded with munitions. Not only would they need to notch, they’d need to change direction so IOG won’t get them.
That being said the 10 km range is concerning as I’d hope they add the 14 km version with improved motor. Otherwise the best combo will be IR + DL for stealth launches. ARH might still be useful against helicopters though since optical is still unreliable against anyone who is smart enough to stay somewhat low. Not multipath low, but low enough that optical won’t work
We tested it with a friend. Despite the Type 81 missiles being among the faster of the bunch, it was still very easy for him to either dip down and get the missile to hit the ground or notch. Keep in mind the missiles accelerate from zero and travel through dense air. Planes like Rafale or Typhoon will have absolutely no issue dodging them.
I really hope they add LOAL, or DL + IOG with the ability to fire the missile without an IR lock, to the IR Type 81 C, otherwise you’d have big issues taking down anyone past 7 kms, except for attack drones as they don’t get RWR.
It was never promised but only reported
Reports, even internal, can’t “promise” anything until there won’t be any special announcement about it by community manager or other official person
I was wondering if we had old photos proving it was a post war mod on a disabled tank if not this would be a cool event vehicle. I found some examples of rear mounted guns on working tanks.
