General Japanese & Thai Ground Forces Discussion HQ

It seems that the Type 60 SPRG is equipped with a rangefinder, but there are a few problems.

First of all, some of the specification documents for the C variant aren’t archived—specifically, the table that covers the rangefinder. However, the documents for the original Type 60 and the D variant are available, and both state that a 75 cm rangefinder is located on the upper surface of the left ammo stowage.

Tables from the specifications


17 | 視察装置 | 測遠機 75 cm | 左弾庫上面 | 1基
17 | Observation device | Rangefinder 75 cm | Left ammo stowage upper surface | 1

So I compared the plans of each variant, and noticed that all of them seem to have a box on the left stowage, which looks like it could be used to store a rangefinder 75 cm long.

3 View Plans




This makes me think that they all have a hand-held rangefinder, although I don’t have solid confirmation.

So, it is very likely that the Type 60 including the C variant have a rangefinder, but the questions are:

  1. Was it actually hand-held? And would the developers accept a hand-held rangefinder as a vehicle optics?
  2. Is this enough evidence to convince the devs, given that the C variant’s specification about the rangefinder is not archived?

Do you think the devs would give the Type 60 a rangefinder?

Source: Type 60 SPRG Specifications

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(B) ‚U‚Oޮީ‘–‚P‚O‚Umm–³”½“®–C(‚a)
(C) ‚U‚Oޮީ‘–‚P‚O‚U‚‚–³”½“®–C(‚b)
(D) ‚U‚Oޮީ‘–‚P‚O‚Umm–³”½“®–C(‚c)

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So acording with the datamine, the Type 81 and TKX (p) br change is going to happen…

like the type needed to go to 11.7 wtf

Now think about it for a moment: they moved TXP (P) (and maybe they will move Type 90s once Fuji sales drop) because at downtiers (which happen once in a dozen games) it would do better than average 11.3 tank (because your enemy is 5 beers deep T-72AB TURMS-T player who just bought this to grind USSR).

And, my favorite, the fact that now it will face less enemies in downtier… but absolutely forgot about uptiers. Suuuuuuuuurely my paper box tank whoose only real strenght is 4s autoloader with a sort of better mobility can compete with Strv 122B+ and other late Leopard 2A5/6/7 derrivatives who are just 0.3 BR higher (totally not a top-tier compression, trust me bro).

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It would be worth a try at least.

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I doubt it can be realised in game. To specific thing to add separate handle rangefinders on vehicle

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Has gaijin made any announcement or comment about the thai ground subtree being confirmed?

Thailand is a subtree, so Thai ground vehicles will be added to Japan if they come.

The only real question is when that is, and if any Thai ground vehicles are being worked on.

I know they would come to japan, but has gaijin said something to the likes of “The thai ground subtree [for japan] is definitely coming”?

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Not that I’m aware of, but there was a leak last year about some ASEAN vehicles for Japan, including Thai vehicles.
This wasn’t enough for a full subtree of Thai vehicles alone, since there was also Indonesian and Singaporean vehicles though.

Making more Thai vehicles could take quite a bit of time, so if this is what they’re going for my guess is the second half of this year unless they already had more Thai vehicles in the works than we know.

If they go for more ASEAN nations it might be quicker, considering the age of the leak by now. Obviously Thailand Indonesia and Singapore might as well be done already, though it is possible with the semi-recent controversy they would skip Singapore.

If they do exclude Singapore we could expect them to remake roughly a third of this subtree, most likely with more Thai and Indonesian vehicles since the next least controversial option in the Philippines doesn’t really have comparable vehicles to what Singapore would’ve likely added.

But all of those are just guesses, who knows what Gaijin’s really up to.

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players are good = lets nerf them by upping the BR

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What may we get form next update? looks German will get IRIS-T, China get there version 25mm with missle aa, what Japan may add into game?
at least they say will have a new jet in JP, hope is a strong enough F-2…

For Japan, the only thing that would make sense is the Type 11 Tan-SAM Kai II. The only other mobile AA system is Type 03 Chu-SAM, but I don’t think we will get SAMs with 50+km range any time soon.

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Thai VL MICA and Singaporean SPYDER-SR are also options with less than 50km range.

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Ares, I know you’re knowledgeable when it comes to all sorts of military machinery, so could you explain to me how exactly does the Type 11 work? Some sources say it is inertial with terminal IR, but fe. your suggestion says it’s ARH. I’d like to finally know. :D

It is ARH only, there isn’t IR version of Type 11 missiles

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Does that mean heli campers are immune?

you fools think the type 11 will ever get added but in reality gaijin will just keep moving up the type 81 forever to pretend japan has a top tier AA

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isnt there an ARH missile for the type 81 in the files…

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There is.

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Gaijin originally said it wasn’t added because it can’t be used independently without FCS vehicle. Then what it was proven that it can I think they said it was too powerful and since then we’ve been waiting for it.

It’d be interesting to see soon hopefully. We already have longer ranged missiles than the 14km of the SAM-1C ARH, so the only new thing would be to wonder how they model PESA ARH.

I just hope they don’t leave us stuck with only the lightwave missile for another year because their statistics say Type 81 overperforms…

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