Responding to Feedback on the Planned Battle Rating Changes April 2025

Thank you for your feedback, we have updated the spreadsheet with the planned Battle Rating changes and want to comment on some of your suggestions.

TKX (P)

The quick reload speed of all tanks in the TKX (P) and Type 90s lineup gives them an advantage in many situations where fire rate plays a crucial role, which affects their effectiveness. At the moment, we decided to raise the Battle Rating only for the TKX (P) and will evaluate the results. The increase of Battle Rating for this tank does not result in it meeting any new opponents, but moves it away from the comparatively very weak tanks. In the future, depending on the efficiency of the lineup, we’ll make decisions on Battle Ratings for the Type 90s, which remain unchanged at the moment.

Type 81 (C)

The TKX (P) will still be able to be in the same lineup as the Type 81 (C), so its Battle Rating being raised doesn’t leave it without a lineup. Despite lacking a search radar and having to deal with the drawbacks of missiles with IR seekers, such as target acquisition distance, it has a second seeker mode and embraces the benefit of such missiles that have fire and forget capabilities. Statistically, it is one of the most effective SAM vehicles in the game, which is the core reason that it is moving higher in Battle Rating.

Vextra 105

Based on feedback a new shell, the OFL 105 G2 will be added and the Battle Rating of this vehicle will be raised to 10.0 so that it can be taken into an effective lineup with the AMX-40 and even some vehicles at a higher Battle Rating. This new shell has slightly more penetration than the 105 mm DM63.

AMX-13s, AMX M4 and E.B.R. (1954)

The combination of characteristics of the AMX-13 and AMX M4 allows them to keep high efficiency values, seriously exceeding the average values on their Battle Rating among similar tanks. We’ve been observing the changes of the effectiveness of these vehicles for some time, but it did not decrease, remaining consistently high. So we decided to increase their Battle Rating, first of all taking them away from tanks with a Battle Rating of 5.7. Together with the appearance of new opponents, this will cause their increased effectiveness values to decrease. The E.B.R. (1954) and AMX-13 have effectiveness noticeably higher than average, but along with the increase in Battle Rating we decided to give it a “top” PCOT-51P shell to make the set of available shells the same for the AMX-13.

There are more changes which were made since the first post. Make sure to check them all out in the updated spreadsheet!

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Oh no now the 11.3 japanese lineup is without a good aa and the TOR is lower than the type 81(c)

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So, Pzh gets only moved in AB…

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Wait! Why has the BR of the Type t-38 not changed? They are armed and armoured the same as Reserve boat!

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Yak 9K moved from 4.3 to 4.7 ONLY???

Again most of the changes between rank 2 and rank 5 completely ignored.

The only good is finally KV-1 B/E BR change.

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I still fail to comprehend why Q-5A/L are going to 10.0, somebody please enlight me.

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No? There are a lot of good battle rating changes like the Merkava having less chances to face early Cold War vehicles, TKP (P) going into a higher battle rating and so on. If your only issue was the KV-1E/1B and the Yak-9K you have a lot for learning.

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Yes, FR players can clean up the battle, for example what people can do with Somua is sometimes crazy.

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The Somua SM turret armor buff was crazy, it just became stronger and the shell calculation there is terrible and likely just get “Non penetration” moment.

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What why ebr 7.0 ??? and still 7.0 for amx 13/m4…

I’m happy for the vextra but you still did not listen to anything as always, i think there are more blue than average but you are still horribly ignoring suggestions…

I thought you were fixing the horrible br of some vautour but only for ground seems like…

Edit : why super etendard at 11.0 now ??? it has the same cas options as the jaguar with a better flight model but that is all.

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KV-1 changes are perfectly fine and Yak-9K need much higher BR or eat some nerfs aswell like Gaijin always do with another nations.

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And still no decompression. 💔

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And still no response to the KH38MT.
And howbit negatively effects the game

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That’s surprisingly a first to see, HUZZAH!! HUZZAH!! HUZZAH!! the Italian Ciclone class Torpedo Boat Ghibli goes down in BR, although they could go down a bit further but for now it’s a start at 3.7 (or the devs make a mod to add a third 100 mm/47 Model 1928 in place of the dual 20 mm/65 an keep it 3.7).

I’d wish they did further vessel BR changes over two extra.

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so, when will these come to live?

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Move the AMX-13, AMX M4 and E.B.R. (1954) to 9.0 so they don’t overperform on 7.0

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Honestly it’s a storm in a teacup. There are a lot of other issues regarding battle rating placemente like the PLZ05 and PzH 2000 with ability to face in-war WW2 vehicles at battle rating 6.7;

Type 90 at battle rating 11.3 and TKX (P) at battle rating 11.7 instead of the opposite, practically both are the same but considering Type 10’s mobility issue, it’s far inferior.

KV-1E is a seasonal issue, KV-1B is a incommon issue, the Yak-9K in a match even rarer compared to the vehicles I’ve mentioned.

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Even more compression specially at battle rating 9.0 and battle rating 10.3.

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Out of nowhere i see a drop of the US P-47 from 5.0 to 4.7 in Air RB.

I am not sure if you have realized that the US P-47 D-28 is identical to the P-47 D-30 we have in the Italian and Chinese TT. The air brake of the D-30s is not really decisive for average players.

So if you finally managed to align the BRs of the French B-26 with the US version (to RB 4.3) it would make sense that you avoid such deviations (D-28 vs D-30) upfront any planned changes.

Btw:

Imho the current BR of the US D-28 of 5.0 is fine. If they suffer more than the IT or CHN D-30s this is just based on MM (nation pairing), uptier frequency and average skill level of their pilots. It is a fantastic aircraft, even admitting that the P-51 D-30 at the same BR is the better aircraft…

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