So I have a question, because I’m clearly missing something here that the stat card in game is not telling me.
Why is the 41cm Type 3 APCBC so bad in comparison to the Type 5?
On paper, the stats are very similar. At 15km the Type 3 only loses about 31mm of penetration yet it genuinely feels like it does nothing 99% of the time while the Type 5 is a borderline doomsday weapon.
What exactly am I missing?
I’m currently sitting at 39-1 after 10 battles with Tosa in NRB using No3, so I’m not exactly displeased with the round’s performance. Your post was excellently timed, as I’ve just unlocked No5, and I’ll keep track of its performance. I can’t quite recall from using it on Mutsu and Amagi if I was especially impressed with how well No5 was doing in comparison.
There’s a possibility the performance will be different in NRB but for Arcade I just straight up do nothing against ships I know the Type 3 can penetrate.
Like an Alaska straight up blocking Type 3s at about 12 to 14km
Maybe it’s me skill issuing, maybe it’s the Snail demanding I suffer.
Very interesting photo. I wish I knew the source… Are there any more photos like this?
Kure Maritime Museum’s collections. I recognize the watermark, they have tons of stuff available online
Stern tanking won’t save you from a determined Soyuz since it can just detonate you through stern armor, let alone through the turret.
Had one detonate me with 90%+ crew left with only 15 or so shells left in the frontal magazine in a Musashi with 90 secondary rounds left in left mogami turret.
Kagero!
Has anyone else noticed how extreme Yamato’s flooding has become after the recent updates?
I’ve been testing it, and a 250 kg bomb exploding next to the hull (not even a direct hit) can trigger catastrophic flooding almost instantly. In multiple cases, the ship becomes unrecoverable in ~30 seconds, without any realistic chance to use damage control.
What feels wrong isn’t just “historical accuracy”, but the lack of counterplay:
From what I understand, Yamato might also be limited by its current hull compartment model (very few sections), which could explain why near-miss damage becomes so punishing.
Even historically, near-miss bomb damage caused flooding, but not immediate loss of the ship — Yamato itself survived near-miss damage and remained operational during combat.
Right now, it feels like survivability depends more on explosion placement RNG than on player decision-making.
I’m not asking for Yamato to be tanky or overpowered, but currently it feels disproportionately fragile for a ship of its size and role.
Curious if other naval players are experiencing the same thing?
here a video : https://youtu.be/oOLn7frzVm4?si=Ai8-FcNAb1O1qoqT
Flooding is honestly the least of the A140’s current issues.
And that’s saying a lot.
It’s not “Yamato only” problem, but inconstancy ships floating settings. Some of them could be drowned that way with “small” bombs.
You could test it by yourself here.
Tbf, you were hit by a lot of near misses, not just one. Though yeah that shouldnt cause such catastrophic flooding that quickly but theres a couple of things i noticed:
You were sailing at full flank speed and continued to do so after getting hit and the flooding notification. Water intake is -afaik and also in my personal experience- depending of the ships speed. If you slowed down immediately you would have had more time to seal the breaches. But tbf the yamato takes a long time to slow down so it might have been not enough. (Full stop and full turn is an option to slow down even quicker if its a full survival mode situation and your angle towards threats is negligible because survival comes first) Just a general notice, but still wort trying instead of just sailing on at full flank speed. And yes, that also counts for unsinkability loss. Go full stop mode and you survive 2 times longer in my experience before you inevitably sink, but that might be enough to still get 2 very punishing salvos out.
And you are using the new damage control.
Which in this case caused: Automatic breach sealing plus repairs of superstructure and other damage (that is minor and not a problem at this moment). Right in the end it added a third action, extinguishing aa fires that are never fatal. If you had stopped the repairs (I am not using the crappy new damage controls that make you die in situations you would survive with “manual” damage controls so im not entirely sure if thats even possible with new auto damage control) that would have sped up the breach sealing process a lot. after breaches are sealed, pump the water and only after that repair damage that is not a factor for your survival at this moment.
I’m not saying you did anything wrong (even if applying everything I’m babbling about by the looks of it still probably wouldnt have saved the ship in such a short time) and such damage without any direct hit absolutely seems way off, these are just general things that you can do when taking flooding damage and when dealing with hull breaches. (Ofc depending on amount of water intake which definitely seems excessive here. 50 % in a couple of seconds from 250 kg bombs…yeah sure feels realistic. Ofc with less than 10 or even 20 % water intake over a longer duration theres not necessarily a need to full stop and turn or stop extinguishing fires. But in general every damage control action after the first one not only doubles the timer for both but makes them even longer, so dealing with one after another is multiple times as efficient. So: Figure out the most immediate damage threat to your ship. Barbette fires, Turret fires or fatal hull breaches are usually number one. Repairs usually can wait, especially if they turn urgent damage repairs or fire extinguishing and hull breach sealing timers 3 times longer.
Yamato had 15,000 tons of reserve buoyancy by design and I don’t understand how it takes that much water to affect hull buoyancy from even small leaks so quickly in warthunder.
Oh absolutely that shouldnt have happened in any shape or form. a couple of 250 kg bombs next to a giant ship with the yamato’s amount of compartments - the snail mustve snailed again to believe that this would just turn the yamato into a submarine in like 30 seconds.
That being said the internal design of compartments of the yammi feels completely off. less compartments than all other high tier bbs that have way less displacement…idk gaijin…u sure?!? TBF the bombs landed all around the ship thus probably damaging and breaching a lot of the compartments but still…its 250 kg bombs. Totally comes close to what the yamato and the musashi went through in their last hours. But whatever this is wt not reality i know. How do i know? I look over there at a sojuz, surviving 5 minutes of straigh shelling of 46 cm guns from 10 km into its angled bow.
Thanks a lot for your detailed explanation, I really appreciate it.
To be honest, I don’t really like the new damage control system, and I didn’t even realize it was possible to switch back to the old one. It’s actually thanks to your message that I found out about it, so that’s really helpful.
I’ll definitely try your advice, especially managing damage control more manually and focusing on critical issues first instead of letting everything run at once.
Just to clarify, the video I posted was more of a comparison test. I intentionally didn’t slow down, because I was trying to compare with how Yamato behaved before, where similar situations resulted in much less flooding.
So while I agree that better damage control could improve survivability, the amount of flooding from a near-miss still feels unusually high compared to previous behavior.
Thanks again for your help 👍
Hey all, I’ve been collecting vessels that I think could be interesting to have in the Japanese naval tree and to see just how far the tree could be stretched. At some I also decided to see how the tree could be laid out.
I ended up with 125 vessels which is actually more than the US ground tree ! While some are simple late war refits like destroyers losing a turret for more 25mm guns, I think there are some really interesting ships like the seaplane cruiser Nisshin that would be fun to see in game. I’ve also included some Thai ships.
So, do you guys have any interesting ships that you think could fit well in the game and be added?
On a somewhat related note, I’d really like it if Gaijin could give the E13A1 its 250kg bomb. It’d be pretty important for ships like Nisshin and Mogami CAV. And if anyone knows whether Mogami used the E16A, it’d be great to know. Eric Lacroix’s book on Japanese cruisers says so but I can’t find any other source supporting this, they all say Mogami only carried E13A and F1M.
Where was it said that ASMs are denied?
