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I can’t really say anything they’ve done recently has been positive without also being negative somehow.
Losing Nagato and now Tosa to the special vehicles section is just depressing.

I’m actually a little mad about them moving Settsu into what was the very obvious battlecruiser line instead of just admitting their mistake by swapping Mutsu and Amagi.
Though in hindsight I really should’ve expected it. They put two subsonic attackers between (A-7, Harrier) two supersonic fighters (F-1, F-16AJ) for no reason despite a very obvious attacker line existing in the tree already, and now they’re putting three fighters (technically one is a fighter/attacker) behind the heavy bombers instead of the attacker line. What is even the point of separating trees into lines by function if they’re just going to ignore them? I could at least respect it if they told us to just grind everything and to go f- ourselves.

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With Tosa now an event ship, how many battleships are even left? Excluding the carrier conversions.

Like kii and no 111, maybe A-150 and that’s it?

I’m very curious what the next few years are gonna have in store for Japan. Maybe we’ll finally get some more cruisers )))))

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I just hope they refine some of the issues with some ships like Yamato.

But most likely next evolution will be submarines then maybe more modern vessels or a full transition to modern naval or maybe carriers

I would love that. Gimme my Shokaku

Maybe we can get the correct Amagi one as a folder lol

No. 111 and Kaga and that’s it.
Maybe Kii and Owari if you can prove they were laid down. Only the guns of A-150 were made but it seems like they were just proving they could be rather than as actually part of the ships construction, so I doubt it anymore.

Although with how much people beg for carriers… No.111 is the only battleship left.

Edit: There’s also Kawachi and the Amagis, but one is Japans second ever dreadnought and the Amagis aren’t battleships no matter how much Gaijin pretends.

They were supposedly laid down. Takao Ishibashi, who you may know for having made those very comprehensive books on Japanese ships (such as the 1868-1945 books on cruisers and battleships/battlecruisers), had originally written in 2007 that they hadn’t been laid down, but in his later works in 2016, made a revision to this and stated they were laid down and 10% complete (earlier and more complete than Atago and Takao of the Akagi class). So it’s relatively new info.

At least that’s what I’ve been told, and I’ve been pointed out to these pages:
https://www.bilibili.com/opus/637740869013733377
https://www.bilibili.com/opus/637722142976245760



kii2

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10% seems like any soviet BB, otherwise they would make a live fire hull test type of stuff like they did with Tosa(?) hull

戰闘巡洋艦高尾及び愛宕は工事を中止さる、然れども四造船所は更に戰闘艦紀井、尾張、戰闘巡洋艦赤木と天城を建造中

Construction of the fighter cruisers Takao and Atago was halted, but the four shipyards were still building the fighter cruisers Kii and Owari, and the fighter cruisers Akagi and Amagi.

https://hojishinbun.hoover.org/?a=d&d=mnc19220302-01.1.3&e=-------en-10--1--img---------

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I really should grind out Musashi but playing Yammy is so painful right now.

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How survivable is Tosa?

Have one shotted Yamatos with Nagato… and not very thrilled for the grind towards Yamato…

Yamato’s armor is bugged to high hell. Somers 12.7cm SAP can ammo explode it.

Tosa’s better armored and therefore more survivable than Amagi.

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Anyone been using Oyodo? I’m researching it and can’t wait to play my favorite light cruiser

How tf is it possible that one barrel launched atgm from a t55 with 3 kg of tnt equivalent is turning one compartment of the yamato from completely intact to yellow? like, do they work on damage models and bug fixes for naval at all? is anyone at gaijin actually quality checking for the bs they put in game?

Because you did a whopping… 1% sectional health.

Yellow is roughly 26% to 99% remaining section HP and I wish there was a better system to show the block health instead of colors - like a meter or something.

In my experience against her, she’s fairly resistant to ammunition explosions and depending where you hit her with 20.3cm SAP you will either do nothing or a little bit of something. No type 93s is almost a deal breaker to me but those 15.5cms can be straight up nasty since they get the Type 91 APHE.

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How good is the Tosa in the current environment?

Yeah, me too. I haven’t researched it yet, but I’ve fought a few times on Mogami. I aimed for the ammo storehouse, but it took a while to explode. Maybe I’m just not good at playing… It doesn’t have torpedoes, but Ooyodo looks fun.
I also like ships with forward-concentrated armament. I’m thinking about making a suggestion for a Chikuma equipped with seaplanes.

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Ended up getting Tosa. Kind of annoying they went with the westernized “Tosa-class” designation rather than the correct “Kaga-class” designation on the statcard.

Aside from that, I see that Tosa’s crew must’ve borrowed Amagi’s time machine and stolen the main battery turrets from the 30s refit Nagato-class to replace their original turrets. So just a couple of potential bug reports, aside from that, Tosa does seem relatively accurate

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If you’re at 12 to 13km you can just plunging fire 99% of ships with the Oyodo and probably instantly kill almost anything you see.

Japanese shells (in my experience, mileage may vary) in warthunder like to instantly nuke ships at odd angles and ranges.

11 to 13km seems to be the sweet spot for CL/CA plunging fire though. 14 to 16km for battleships. I should probably test if diving shells are a thing because that could just as easily be dangerous at close range.

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