There’s the heretical option of giving it kggb lol since kggb technically works on anything as long as it can drop mk82 since the entire thing is controlled from PDU with no aircraft integration needed and has been tested on old F-4E.
Beautiful work my friend. Wouldn’t F15JM also be included in the affected list?
J(M) already has NCTR due to using the V1 instead of the PSP.
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Yeah, and it has the wrong radar for the one I was reporting so…
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The J(M) should have detailed NCTR, but like xeno said, it has a different radar and there is already a report for it.
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I see I hope it gets fixed too. Flying RB and not being able to see plane ID on TWS is annoying. Good thing next update brings radar filtering so I won’t see every missile coming
I haven’t seen it in docs, maybe missed but not sure.
Also checked Japanese wiki about ASM-2 and about seeker it note only IRCCM improvements.
And anyway main issue - no capability to use seeker image for aiming. Although we have hammer… well anyway it is not proofed.
Main advance of ASM-2B is adding GPS navigation but meanwhile it is not really clear did it made really possible to use it as classic GPS AGM without any problem. But anyway in theory in WT it can be at least added as GPS only missile. But issue with height of flight
The classic issue with Japanese vehicles is that they don’t get necessary improvements because it is not already new equipment despite it still in active service.
F-4EJ Kai served around 30 years after getting its last upgrade (ASM-2 in ~1993 while F-4EJ Kai was in service until ~2021)
Lowkey I dont expect the ASM-2B to be capable of using GPs for targetting ground. For a few reasons.
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Its always described in terms of waypoint guidance, not targetting.
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The ASM-2 IRL will just, turn in a circle to pass an again if it doesnt find a target.
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the ASM-2 needs to complete a full target detection sweep before engaging targets. So no valid targets should mean no engagement.
We know the ASM-2B only added a single extra launch mode, so it likely kept one of the latter two things i mentioned.
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I believe I found some documents for J2M, I guess, which are the postwar U.S. Military Interrogation Records of Japanese officers.
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IDK why but the US officer being confused about the fire suppression system is funny to me.
I’m curious to if ASM-3 would potentially add this functionality then?
I think ground GPS mode is really all that I want, targeting via sniper pod to place a marker on the ground. Would be really helpful in taking out SPAAs with their huge explosive mass, opening the ground to some time for L-JDAMs before they respawn.
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They added the target type filter but for some reason F-2A doesn’t get it even though it has an AESA radar? Does anyone know if it should get the filter or how is it determined what plane gets that filter?
And they said they added NCTR to TWS for planes, but technically F15JM has NCTR since it shows target information when you lock a single plane so shouldn’t it get NCTR for TWS too?
No idea, could be a bug, since iirc they did say all TWS+ platforms would get it…
It deffinitly should though, considering munition interception is something fairly within its expected uses, with it being a key feature of the AAM-4.
If anything, lowkey, with the ability to filter targets. I wish they’d give the J/APG-2 mode interleaving modes for simeltanious air / ground tracks. As now that that could be filtered it may actually be a hair useful.
Do you know if a bug report can be made just saying that Gaijin forgot the f15JM or do we need primary sources showing they have NCTR?
Uh, if you had a link to a post of like smin saying all planes with certain features will get it. Then that should probably be fine?
I misread, stona was talking about target filter, but still the F-2A is missing that filter. I will try to make a bug report for it
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/OYQPLBiY7sVy
It got accepted! F-2 should be alot easier to fly now
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I wonder if we can deliver the documents and a logical reason to developers directly to prove J2M’s armament issue, considering the J2M’s 30mm cannon is type5 so it should not be only for 42 rounds for eash, and also due to the accepted issue reports with missing 20mm guns, it is clear that only J2M matched that. (The U.S. military interrogation report concerns an officer from the Yokosuka base, where the only aircraft that met the test requirements was the J2M, J5N1 got more rounds）
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This is the Yokosuka naval base in 1945. In the photo, you can see Mitsubishi G4M3, Nakajima J1N1-Sa, Nakajima C6N1, Nakajima J5N, Yokosuka D4Y1/2 and Yokosuka D4Y3/4 aircraft.
Additional photos from the Yokosuka base:
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I thought bug reports were fixed in order of importance. When is the F-2A gonna get its target filter, since its probably the plane that needs it the most…
Anyways here’s the F2 with their brother
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