interesting
twin. One of the manufacturers of these ships is in the game as a subtree. So stop grasping at straws and making gross generalizations.
austria hungary is very different then modern hungarian subtree you have they where allys with the german kaiser and shared technology
“modern Hungary” you do realize that the Kingdom of Hungary is in the game too ? 1919-1946
yeah austria hungary was the EMPIRE BUDDY
- 1786–1867 (as the Austrian Navy)
- 1867–1918 (as the Austro-Hungarian Navy)
dual monarchy of 2 kingdoms
blatant misinformation btw
lets give modern russian mbt’s to france because they all use Thales thermal optics…lol
Gripen should be American and British only because of the parts used…etc big-brained argument
its very different as Germany manufactured there main guns armor weapons optics engines ranfinders
where as a leclerc majority is indigenous
krupp produced guns and armor for them
germany also gave them submarines to aswell based on there UBOATS
In 1904, after allowing the navies of other countries to pioneer submarine developments, the Austro-Hungarian Navy ordered the Austrian Naval Technical Committee (MTK) to produce a submarine design. The January 1905 design developed by the MTK and other designs submitted by the public as part of a design competition were all rejected by the Navy as impracticable. They instead opted to order two submarines each of designs by Simon Lake, Germaniawerft, and John Philip Holland for a competitive evaluation. The two Germaniawerft submarines comprised the U-3 class.[85] The Navy authorized two boats, U-3 and U-4, from the Germaniawerft in 1906.[86]
The U-3-class was an improved version of Germaniawerft’s design for the Imperial German Navy’s first U-boat, U-1,[86] and featured a double hull with internal saddle tanks. The Germaniawerft engineers refined the design’s hull shape through extensive model trials.[87]
which is why both countries should get some as they where enemy’s against italy rather than allys at the time aswell as there are enough hungrian dread noughts to share as germany had deep ties with them at the time and it would fill some gaps in the techtree right now
very few things on hungarian dread noughts where domestic
there are total of 12 hungarian BBs they could add which can be split between both trees
I don’t think you understand how Austria-Hungary worked bro…
Austria was it’s own state and Hungary was it’s own state. The only difference is they just had another level of government to connect them.
It’s like a very large scale version of a confederation or federalism.
Lastly, name of ships doesn’t really matter, if we went based on language for subtrees then there would be a lot different
majority of parts are built via germany which is why i say both should receive them
it be similar to the french AMD from the upgraded by the germans and recaptured
Two things on this, first this isn’t exactly true as Škoda produced a lot of the armaments on ships, and was located in Austrian occupied Czech
Secondly, the whole domestic point really doesn’t make a difference as in a like any economy since the silk road there has been regular use of non-domestic supplies and materials
valid point but skoda only made the SPAA guns not the main caliber or secondary
- 3 × 24 cm (9.4 in)/40 cal. Krupp C97 guns
- 12 × 15 cm (5.9 in)/40 Krupp C96 guns
- 10 × 6.6-centimeter (2.6 in)/45 cal Skoda guns
- 6 × 47 mm (1.9 in)/44 cal Skoda QF guns
- 2 × 4.7-cm/33 cal Skoda QF guns
- 2 × 45-centimeter (17.7 in) torpedo tubes
Bro how does that change anything at all?? Plus the list you sent me has a majority of Škoda components 💀💀 How is this proving your point??
Also the Ersatz Monarch class which would have been the best had main guns produced by Škoda (these were actually made)
The main thing to consider, is what would this mean for the future of Austria in game? Will it be distributed all over the tech-trees? Or would it be a subtree for Italy as well? Probably not.
With their Pandur, Saurer APCs, and Spanish-Austrian Ulhan IFV, there isn’t much to begin with.
Certainly not enough for a subtree, so it will get distributed
I guess, 100 mm Minisini are with the same longer reloading compared to Soviet ships, aren’t they?
Compared to? 100 mm/56 B-34 obr. 1940 g.? Yes.
I mean 100 mm on Cadorna and Kerch for example, for Italian ships they are called 100 mm/47 O.T.O. and for Soviet 100 mm/50 Minizini, they are essentially the same in the same turrets, although because of different values in each nation paper sources, they have different RoF.
Maybe Cadorna is an exception this time?
Same 100 mm/47 OTO Mod. 28 as the Bartolomeo Colleoni, Bolzano, Eugenio di Savoia, Luigi di Savoia Duca degli Abruzzi, Pola, Raimondo Montecuccoli, Trento, and Zara.