Gajin ruining balance and realism for literally 0 reason (high tier F-104s)

What were they smoking when the nerfed the F-104 flight model making it both unrealistic and even more useless? Did some dev die an entirely avoidable death to a level 10 premium Italian F-104 or smthn?

The lower tier F-104s were also hit pretty bad. It used to be a tradeoff. Fastest plane for its BR in the game, at the expense of literally everything else. Now they’re not even the fastest. Mig-21’s are objectively better at everything (faster, better turning at all speed, better guns, better missiles) yet they didn’t get nerfed.

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F-104s are faster than all Mig-21s.
Mig-21’s flight model was already corrected earlier this year as well.
Obviously Mig-21’s guns are inferior, and missiles are on-par.

Your post is misinfo.

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I mean sure, by technically an F-104 can theoretically reach a higher top speed at altitudes no1 fights at, but in practice the ridiculous and unrealistic drag increase means an F4D would be a better 9.3. The Mig-21’s guns deal far more consistent damage and R-60s beat Aim-9Bs any day

M61 is superior to Mig-21 cannons, this is an objective fact.
Mig-21MF and SMT are 10.7, not 9.3. AIM-9Js are what’s at 10.7, not AIM-9Bs… this is common knowledge. Your false equivalence fallacy is not valid.

F-104A reaches over mach 1.13 at sea level, far faster than Mig-21Bis can reach and that’s the best Mig-21 made.

Mig-21Bis reaches mach 1 in 56 seconds.
F-104S [Mig-21Bis’s BR] reaches mach 1 in 55 seconds.

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F-104A BTW reaches mach 1 in 55 seconds but it’s clean, and Mig-21F-13 barely reaches mach 1 at sea level.

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XD who’s spending half the game flying in a straight line to get to mach 1.13 when you lose it all in a 2 second turn

Mig-21s bleed more speed than the F-104s even with their changed state.
Also, your movement of the goalposts failed to secure your stance.

bro you destroyed ur own stance with false goalposts

F-104s are faster than the lower BR Mig-21 variants, while also have a better cannon. I also don’t believe that they bleed more speed than a Mig-21.

After the last update, their turning and acceleration were destroyed. Mig-21s atleast have some dogfighting capability. F-104 post nerf can’t even turnfight an F-84F anymore.

Why would you even consider turn-fighting in an F-104…

Also, mig-21s aren’t that good in prolonged dogfights.

Pretty sure that would also be a bad thing to do pre-nerf

I turnfought F-84Fs just simply cause I could and suffer 0 repercusions.

Better than bad in all fights

F-104 could very comfortably turnfight F-84Fs pre-nerf (yes, F-84Fs are seriously just that bad). It can’t do that anymore. Also why tf did the F-84F lose its gun CCIP? that’s another stupid nerf.