Gaijin, this is your betrayal of fans

KVT and HC in a line up. DS and OES in line up.(I don’t play Brittan so now sure how viable that’d be) What I’m getting at, isn’t about it being an amazing line up, but about it helping with the one death leavers… Kind of XD

It’s still not a good idea. They’ll find the KVTs ammunition lacking at top tier.

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Has speed and that round will still put a hole in something if you flank. Is it easy? No. We don’t want P2W

372mm of penetration for the M773? While they’re just getting into Warthunder?
The HC at least has 529mm which can be worked with on the M829A1.
You’re overestimating the KVT and Wolf pack for the sake of the argument. They shouldn’t be getting brought up to 11.7.

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Not talking about the wolfpack, but I feel it could likely work too. If I can bring the M22 into top tier and make it work, the KVT can do more. Mobile and a shell that can do damage. Flank. Most people playing WT generally know basic tactics. Also, are you sure it’ll be 11.7? I don’t remember seeing that in the dev blog

The Wolfpack is the only vehicle worth uptiering to be honest. The M900 and low profile turret would be easier to work with.
The HC has M829A1, they haven’t said that the premium wouldn’t so far. So it would also likely be 11.7 or else that would be “pay-to-win” if it was 11.3 just because.

The M1A1 HC TT version is 11.3 Why would the premium be 11.7? It has all the same things from the looks of it. Unless you’re including the chair? :P

Oh, that’s my bad then. It will only get 11.7 games 90% of the time instead of 100%.
I don’t play the U.S so I’m not familiar with them.

I just went into test drive with the KVT and killed the T-90A from the front. Same weak spot most T series have. I don’t have it so I don’t know for sure, but I honestly feel that the KVT could hold it’s own at 11.3 or so. (Would be worse in Uptier, but honestly flanking still a valid tactic.)

You killed a T-90A…
Now kill a T-80BVM, T-72B3, and likely the T-90M when if it comes in December. Do it when it’s moving and shooting back.

I mean, if I had it, I’d give it a go. Once again, every single time I’ve mentioned it, I said flanking. Moving won’t matter. Shooting back, if you let them hit you first, sure you’re gonna likely die but at that BR range, it normally comes down to who shoots first anyways.

It sounds good in theory. Majority of the time if you can’t reliably to a frontal duel you won’t go far enough to flank consistently.
Also, flanking is moving? You’re assuming the other player will be a potato. The M1 is loud and big, the likelihood of successfully flanking is even lower.

Let’s be honest here. Most people playing top tier act like potatoes more often than not XD M1 is also fast. Don’t forget that advantage

If they want to fight Russia, where the majority of high skill players migrate is to be assumed. The HC also won’t be able to down tier to 10.0 where people buy into Russia.
Only other outliers are China, France, and Sweden. The U.S and U.K have the worse teams comparatively to everyone else.

Welcome to live service!

Buys 10.3 vehicle, gets 10.3 vehicle. But when 11.0 vehicle is introduced, cries and wants his vehicle to be upgraded to 11.0.

A whining kid syndrome. If you wanted to have 10.3 vehicle, be happy about it. If you didnt want it, you shouldnt have bought it lol

Similar? One is an 11.3 that can face T-90Ms & 2A7s when they come.
The other is a well balanced 10.3 in a less CAS-ridden BR.