Gaijin need to add spall liners to Chinese vehicles

Yeah i agree with both of y’all. Hopefully Gaijin realizes this and fixes stuff for both our nations.
Ofc tons of bug reports needed.

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Actually that would be 3 nations because as far as i know Leclerc’s also missing Spall Liners.

But that discussion is for another thread.

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If you have something to say then take it to PM, dont have time for another pointless conversation that will derail this thread even further.

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I think what would be prudent is making a detailed reference based on the in-game model.
That could perhaps help developers actually implement them easier.

Such as like this:

Except done while referencing all of the images available, with higher accuracy, to make a full model.

Why is this thread still being derailed by US mains piling in to keep bringing up the abrams even after they have been told by the mod to can it and stay on topic?

@SneedSellsFeed So do you know what the outer layer of the ERA is and how thick?

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This thread really needs a mod to clean-up all the off-topic posts complaining about the abrams. The toxic US mains that won’t leave it alone are proving to be incredible ambassadors and examples of their type-set.

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Yes. I literally can’t believe that @Pacifica came and told them to stop provoking and being off-topic, and yet they continue regardless. Complete lack of self-awareness. Complete lack of decency or shame.

Unbelievable.

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Also did you answer my question about the ERA top plate?

I don’t understand the question, honestly. Since the ERA doesn’t even have a plate modeled. It’s just “ERA” and then 45mm RHA under it.

From what I’ve deduced, the VT-4 just has numerous armor holes all over because of volumetric making the area where the two UFPs meet and where the driver port plate extends far weaker than usual.

@Smin1080p The US players are intent on derailing this thread despite being warned and are now resorting to racist remarks as a last ditch attempt.

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The fly-off plate. The top layer of the ERA.

I’m done with my computer for the night but you’re welcome to preview the VT-4A1 in-game and see what the ERA is like.

Honestly at this point either he, with the help of others, posts the evidence he found (and/or will find more of it since it’s a pretty hard topic to gather info on) and makes a bug report or this was just a “nice” chat between us. All good.

the bug reports are already made and acknowledged…

Cleaned up!

Something like 6 members have warnings issued now… I lost count actually…

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Anyway given that it appears that spall liners are being tested on other vehicles on the dev server it is likely not far off that chinese vehicles will have them too. Albeit I’m not sure how much it will improve survivability given the carousel weakspot and the other typically being a breech shot.

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Anything helps at this point, I suppose having spall liners are better than not having them regardless of how much it actually helps, looking at the dev server with the autoloaders being properly modeled, I am expecting that Chinese top tier mbts will be even worse next update.

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Screenshot_20240603-132542
MBT-2000’s gunner hatch. The hatch lacks spall liner I think, so that probably means it doesnt have any spall liners. But there’s some kind of a layer of rubber or similar material on it. Also there are some old pictures of MBT-2000’s Interior and in the pictures you can see it lacks spall liner.

In all fairness autoloaders being modelled is long overdue. Besides from what I’ve heard from people saying they shouldn’t be added they shouldn’t make a real difference anyway.

Looks more like paint applied with a brush rather than a spray gun. The installed parts look like they had a spray gun treatment as their finish quality is far more uniform.

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