Tornado Gr1 (and ASSTA1) should have come end of 2021. Instead we got it end of 2022, in the same update as the F-16 and Mig-29 and it was barely an upgrade over the Jaguar Gr1A.
Tornado F3 should have come with the F-14A (at the latest) but came a full year later (I dont count it as added till it got the Stage 2G radar)
The Tornado F3 was our answer and counter to the Mig-23MLD (and Mig-23MLA) and F-14A but didnt get it till signifcantly later than them.
We are accused of wanting a C&P Gripen, but we fought like hell to get something else (and probably worse) like the BAE EAP.
Yes Germany needs to get Aim-9Lis. But the ICE is in a FAR better place than Britain, Italy or Sweden has been in the past 2 years. Worse case scenario. Germany has a rough time for 3 months.
Had you not said “Oh but the US needs the 9X” I would have entirely considered it valid, regardless of where I stand. But you made a wisecrack comment at the end that frankly, wasn’t necessary. I didn’t sit there and call GB stupid or ignorant or ridiculous.
Well then I apologise, because the rest of that text was not meant as an insult to you and that particular line was a snarky, petty remark that on reflection, probably wasn’t worth saying, but was more me outletting my frustration, which is… well, unprofessional and unnecessary.
(although someone did genuinely put a report on that on the CBR, in the same way the Germans have fielded one on the IRIS-T and myself with the ASRAAM, probably more as a safeguard rather than a “I genuinely want it now”, and in fairness I get that.)
(That’s still a stupid request and I fully understand that, most US mains have a problem comprehending the idea that something may not be vastly inferior just because it isn’t the best)
Unprofessional sure, and although it isn’t me, I’m sure that it is necessary for some people to hear.
the British engine in the F35 is I assume the rolls royce LiftSystem. Which was in fact designed by Lockheed Martin and then contracted to rolls royce.
It’s a good system and Britain has a large number of of excellent defense companies. But this is some conspiracy theory about the ASRAAM is just silly. ITAR also applies to US equipment, even more so in fact.
And then they made it useless 2 months after adding it by making it 9.0 in CB. I got extremely annoyed with that change to the point that I will finish BP in 3 weeks and quit the game.
It’s always like that with Germany.
Add a new vehicle for Germany.
Good players get it before everyone else.
They raise its statistics.
Gaijin moves the vehicle up in BR and/or nerf it.
They usually wait with other nations before they raise BR or nerf it. Not with Germany. Wiesel 1A2 raised by like 1 full BR in a span of a week. PUMA got 2 weeks of fun time.
Every game I play is either against USSR or USA/USSR and we can’t have Germany dominating USSR. That’s a big no no. PUMA is a prime example of that.
Not to mention that USA and USSR always have to get their toys first and then Germany gets an equivalent (maybe) a year later (usually even as an event vehicle!!!), when the vehicle is already on the verge of being irrelevant.
Now they had a chance to add Dutch subtree to Germany, for a chance to get some decent planes in the otherwise dead end aviation tech tree. But nope, they give Dutch to France.
INB4 GuRmAnY mAiN cRy
I play USA/GER/CHI/SWE of which I have every single TT plane.
PS: I usually stick to <8.7. I went to play Alpha Jet yesterday at 9.0 and at 9.3 to see how it plays and the game became a joke. They made USSR so OP (or rather every other nation so irrelevant) that everyone plays USSR. It’s USSR vs USSR now every other game in CB lol.