Gaijin is sick and is destroying Warthunder, the game is all about Russia and at most Germany, Russia has the best Anti-Aircraft, the jet that does CAS at 20km (SU25SM3 and KH38MT) and its tanks are super armored, meanwhile all the other nations in the game are super nerfed and there is no minimum balance, everything that is from the USA has to be in other nations, F16, F15, AIM120, AGM65, but in the USA there is nothing from other nations, anyway, Gaijin hates the USA and leaves it nerfed, but in real life, the USA is the GREATEST MILITARY POWER IN THE WORLD, but in Warthunder it is a losing nation, both for its nerfed vehicles and for the players who are horrible.
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The M1s aren’t even that bad and the US has probably the best multirole CAS in the game. What you experienced is a bug that every nation has.
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Well Russia’s not a tech tree; Soviets doesn’t have F-16C, F-16D, Tornado, Mirage 2000, Gripen, and JH-7A, aircraft superior to that of AV-8B and Su-25SM3 in the CAS role.
And of course AV-8B is equal to Su-25SM3 in CAS.
Soviets don’t have Leopard 2A7V, 2A7HU, and Strv 122 all as-armored as T-90M with superior rounds, faster reload, etc.
Soviets do have a tank as armored as Abrams: T-80BVM, but its round is the “3rd worst” at top BR in War Thunder.
Su-27 isn’t 13.0, and F-15A is.
Fw 190 A-8, Spitfire LF Mk 9c, Bf 109 F-4, Merkava Mk1, Mk2, Mk3.
On top of that, USA’s domestic equipment is superior to the vehicles of other tech trees.
USA has a number of under-BR’d things and no over-BR’d things.
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Are you serious? Germany’s best top tier aircraft is a phantom rn.
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M26
T32E1
F-84F
T25
LOSAT
F-111A
F-4C
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M26 is correctly BR’d, T26E5 is under-BR’d.
T32E1 is correctly BR’d, it’s a faster Maus.
F-84F is especially correctly BR’d, other things are under-BR’d such as F-86.
T25 is a slightly worse M26 thus should be 0.3 BR below the M26.
LOSAT AFAIK is correct.
F-111A is correctly BR’d.
And F-4C is unknown; the exclusive you you listed that might be over-BR’d.
HUH???
Wot? The T26E5 is fine that thing is extremely well protected, the M26 can be penetrated by anything and still has mid mobility and a mid round. Even the T-44 is much better.
Huh? They’re not even similar for you to say “its a faster Maus”. And don’t use the Maus as a comparison, even Gaijin acknowledges that the Maus is a difficult tank to balance hence why it way removed.
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The T25 is 6.3, the M4A3E8 is 5.7.
I mean have you played the vehicle? It can’t engage targets below like 300m, it has no vertical elevation or depression meaning its difficult to make it work on any slight elevation or depression on the terrain, its missile kinematics is iffy in multiplayer.
Its a flying brick with AIM-9Es. Its not the same F-111 as before where it could keep up with an F-14 in a dogfight. It now loses all of its speed with small turns and takes forever to get it back.
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T26E5 is the best 6.7 heavy tank in the game 2nd to none. More armored than an IS-3 with the great M26 gun to back it up.
M26’s mobility is made up by its adequate armor and its excellent round.
T-44 uses a significantly weaker gun.
Maus isn’t a difficult tank to balance, it’s already balanced and it wasn’t removed.
Maus quite literally comes back every October.
T25 is also superior to the Panthers thus should be a higher BR than them, and Panthers are superior to M4A3E8 thus should be higher than them.
F-111A is not a fighter, it’s an attack aircraft and it does that job fine.
Compared to what? The Merkava or Ariete?
Best CAS =/= best multirole CAS
Even in ground Russia is actually doing much better than Germany right now:
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- Italy - 74.259
- USSR - 70.539
- France - 66.856
- China - 65.045
- Germany - 64.916
- Japan - 64.137
- Sweden - 62.786
- Israel - 50.36
- Britain - 48.048
- US - 33.505
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I believe this is because of our lack of CAS an support vehicles.
The T-44 is much more well protected and can be difficult to kill even as a KT if the T-44 does something as simple as shake the turret. And the T-44’s gun isn’t far behind, its not a “significantly” weaker gun.
They literally say its a difficult tank to balance hence why its going to be an event vehicle.
The Panthers hold a slight edge in penetration with better frontal armour protection especially on the Panther A because of volumetric. The only advantage the T25 holds is a slight edge in mobility which doesn’t really warrant a 0.3BR increase.
Plus the lack of an SPAA, the ahistorically massive turret ring, the lack of DU armor, spall liners, improved turret side armor, improved hull armor (non-DU improvements and DU improvements), SEPv2 APS, tracking and HE-VT for the HSTV-L, to name but a few things. That’s without even getting into how the US has been stuck with a 11.3 premium the longest (and it went on sale at least once).
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Compared to the T-80BVM.
Bruh the F-16C has the Maverick-D with a TGP. It can also carry 2 Paveways on top of that and 2 AMRAAMs. It can be both CAS and a fighter at the same time thats why I said multirole.
First of all, its well known that Thunderskill is an unreliable source but I will acknowledge that its the best we have. Secondly, there are many factors to win rate and in the US’s case, the reason for their poor win rates is the massive influx of premium noobs playing to tier right now exaggerated by the recently M1A1 Clickbait discount and the fact that the US is the most popular nation.
We saw the same thing happen with the release of the first top tier squadron vehicle; the Leopard 2PL. New players flocked to it because its top tier and thus dropped the winrates of top tier Germany.
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The T-80BVM has much better armor while having better mobility. Plus with its ATGM, it has better rounds too.
Having a couple AMRAAMs doesn’t mean its a good CAS, especially when its AGMs require you to be in range of an SPAA to use them. The Su-25SM3 gets to stay out of the range of every SPAA in the game, which makes it the best CAS.
A sample size of ~4.5 million is statistically significant, however.
Also the US having no top tier SPAA, their MBT being mid at best, their light tank being overtiered and lacking its tracking and HE-VT, having a 11.3 premium the longest and it also going on sale, among other things.
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Back when 8.0 was 7.7, aka 7.7 wasn’t decompressed, which makes that screenshot null and void.
lol The ATGM is worse than its APFSDS round. It has same forward mobility, worse reverse, worse maneuverability due to lack of neutral steer.
And its turret armor is better than an Ariete’s… and that’s it.
There’s a reason all non-American players shoot BVMs in the weak turret and frag enemy T-80BVMs with ease.
It’s also why you still see people in T-80Us cause that has better armor than BVM. The 11.3 has better armor, but is 11.3 cause it uses 3BM46 instead and its turret traverse is weaker.
Lol… lmao even.
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This thread is pain, mentally I mean.
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