Gaijin hates Kugelblitz AND I HATE GAIJIN FOR IT

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For many years Kugelblitz was br. 7.0 which is absolutely nonsence. Just to sumary what Kugelblitz is…

  • its slow pz IV vehicle 39 km/h with no armor, no radar, no laser, no rockets, no anything
  • short burst of 100 rounds with long reload
  • AP round does 58mm pen (i dont count 77mm HVAP, we all know that sh*t does not work)

so as you can see nothing realy special and specialy useless agance cold war jets. Now lets do little comparsion with other nations:

GERMANY:
BR 6.7 - (Kugelblitz) - 39 km/h, 58 mm pen, 450 rpm + LONG RELOAD after 100 rounds

USA, JAPAN, :
BR 4.0 - (M42) - 72 km/h, 72mm pen, 120 rpm + infinite shooting

CHINA:
BR 5.0 - (Phòng không T-34) - 55 km/h, 70 mm pen, 120 rpm + GREAT ARMOR
BR 5.7 - (ZSD63/PG87) - 60 km/h, 63 mm pen, 600 rpm
BR 6.3 - (ZSL92) - 88 km/h, 63 mm pen, 500 rpm

URRS:
BR 3.3 - (ZiS-12 94-KM) - 51 km/h, 57 mm pen, 240 rpm + infinite shooting
BR 3.7 - (ZSU 37) - 42 km/h, 70 mm pen, 160 rpm + infinite shooting
BR 6.0 - (BTR-ZD) - 61 km/h, 57 mm pen, 800 rpm

I wont be typing more of them, these examples are clearly showing that Kugelblitz is worse in every category, speed, pen, armor + long reload compare to other vehicles and yet its 6.7 for some reason.
I heard people saying that it would be unbalanced putting Kugelblitz lower because if would be killing tanks easy… that is just pure bullsh*t, just look at usa M42 in 4.0 or well known swedish LA 62 ANTI II in 3.3 with 80 pen. Basicaly almost anything from any nation is stronger agance tanks so there is absolutely no reason to have old pz IV platform in 6.7.

Lets be realistic.
Kugelblitz very have similiar performance as ZiS-12 (94-KM) at 3.3. Advantage of ZiS-12 (94-KM) is movement speed and infinite shooting.
So Kugelblitz can sit at 3.3 and it will be comparable to soviet vehicles
Stuff like ZSU 37 (1945 vehicle) have higher pen 70mm and its sitting in 3.7 so, Kugelblitz would be in disadvantage in 3.7 or higher compare to much more modern vehicles.

If you read all of this, i will give you one last example how much gaijin hates Kugelblitz
(Zerstörer 45) - have same speed, same armor, same pen, 2X MORE CANNONS AND STILL IT HAVE LOWER BR THAN Kugelblitz.

Thanks you for your time.

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Well the Zerstörer is open top? Kugelblitz should not die from 50cal whereas the Zerstörer does? Or maybe it does? I dont know

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What can I say… Nah, just one image.

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You know that there is more than the penetration to take into account? they are still spaag, and the kugelbliz is just better than this by a long shot, the zsu at 3.7 is worse than the ostwind at 3.3 at the spaag role, start using the kugel on it’s role dont just brainless push foward trying to kill tanks.

The zerstorer doesnt have anywhere close to the same armor as the kugelbliz, you can just kill 3 out of 5 crewmembers by just 30. cal…

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This does not exist, you clearly forgot that there is a cool down and these weapons are clip loaded or magazine feded

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All people spamming here “skill issue” are just stupid or trolls. This has nothing to do with skill it is simply technical capabilities and limitations of the vehicle designed in certain time for specific task.
If you have two monitors, one with OLED 4k 240 hz ΔE < 2 and second with TN 720p 60hz then clearly first one is better in every single way, no skill included.

Just to show you how ludicrous is to have Kugelblitz in 6.7 here are a vehicles with basically same BR but on completly different level of performance.

URRS:
BR 7.0 - (ZSU-57-2) - 50 km/h, 157 mm pen, 120 rpm
BR 7.3 - (ZSU-23-4M2) - 50 km/h, 51 mm pen, 850 rpm

GERMANY:
BR 7.0 - (Flakpanzer 341) - 46 km/h, 87 mm pen, 250 rpm

Kugelblitz is old vehicle from WW2 designed to kill LA-7 and other low altitude prop planes but its fighting agance cold war vehicles and jets. IT WAS DESIGNED TO FIGHT AGANCE PLANES AND NOT TANKS! If anyone use it agance tanks, then you cannot complain for dying. I am complaing about pefrormance of Kugelblitz agance jets and that fact due to high BR it has to deal with cold war era vehicles with 50+ years more modern design

Argument “it cannot die from .50” is kinda lazy, makes no sence and its a lie. pz IV gets penetrated by .50 from side and from back. Every airplane since 3.0+ already have 20mm and more so every plane in 6.7 will smite Kugelblitz without hesitation.
BTW another proof this argument is stupid SKINK is far more better armored agance .50 cal everywhere and yet its only br 5.3 and not 6.7 but like i said this does not even make sence because every plane will already have 20mm cannon.

When i say “infinite shooting” i mean by that, you can reload so fast that you can just follow your next shot with another without leaving your position for a cover to reload.

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I don’t believe this post was made with sincerity. The kugel is not good for 7.0 but trying to say it should be 3.3 (a br below the wirbelwind) is just either trolling or severe lack of knowledge

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