how is the abrams turret basket model
u got any protection analysis show, also does it spall or catch it(im not on my pc)
I’m not really sure. I don’t think it’s absorbing shrapnel and if it is, it’s being outweighed by the amount of shrapnel being generated.
The thing is that side shot center of mass is usually a one shot kill even before the the turret basket was added. In my opinion, all this does is increase the area in which you have the possibility of getting a one shot kill.
I can’t give a definitive answer, I should’ve done tests pre-patch
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In Leopard models the turret gets now jammed with virtually every hit. This turret basket always gets hit and also doesn’t protect, spall goes through.
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Still no word on the bumped bug reports either
Very low confidence. Especially if it claims such a high penetration figure without any kind of basis. Instead I recommend the following article.
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idk how much id trust that source, it literally says there isnt a cutaway view of m829a3 while one of the first images claims to be one.
while also ignoring how the cutaway of m829a3 clearly shows a significant length increase over m829a2
He says there isn´t a cutaway showing where the penetrator ends and where the breakaway tip begins. From the most important source -the patent- what the author deducts is that said tip is 100-120mm long, which is just enough for the penetrator to be just as long as previous M829A2 (but thicker).
But you are probably missing the most important point: it penetrates between 0.5-10 percent more into steel than if it hadn´t the penetrator and up to 20 percent vs targets equipped with heavy ERA (K5 and similar).
In other words, if by formula we get that M829A3 penetrates 710mm at 60º, then you have to increase it by 10 percent, that is 780mm vs tanks that don´t have ERA and up to 850mm against those which do.
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Well for Tiger, destroying the floor IS destroying the traverse cause that’s where the traverse mechanism is transferred to the turret.
Ah yes my favourite kind of news. The completely unsourced kind!
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Sorry, but why are this guys post not already flagged and why is it not already banned? Dude has violated half communities guidelines (political discussion, propaganda + off topic)… I’ve seen people post been flagged for way less…
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my post have been removed for less lol
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Vatniks get a free pass around here.
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Was reading a few documents (excerpt mentioned here) and came across this;
“In essence, I asked the Army to apply to the Bradley the same external fuel storage, spall liner, and ammunition compartment concepts already in practice in the Israeli M-113’s, Merkavas, and the Army’s own M-1 and M-1A1 tanks. In February 1986, the Army agreed to this in principle. However, it took over a year to get a prototype vehicle prepared. Only 6 weeks were required to actually prepare the vehicle. The rest of the year was spent in bureaucratic study, review, and foot-dragging.”
Do we know which variant / program / prototype this could correspond to? It’s not the baseline A1 as they begin deliveries in August of '85.
Bro, the more I listen to people that play NATO tanks, the more I get the feeling that they don’t understand. The basics of how the Russian T-72 series works-Amma, be real, this entire post just looks like a NATO cope.
You do get that none of said NATO tanks are using their optimal ammo, yes? For example the baseline M1 is using M774 a shell that turns up at 9.0 at 10.7. when it could still receive M833 or M900(-A1).
To put it in terms of Russian items it would be like the T-80B being arbitrarily constrained to having access to 3BM15 as its best round, instead of 3BM46; and still being at 10.7.
There are well documented issues, and bug reports that Gaijin have sat on for “unknown” reasons, that have persisted though numerous major updates, and even entire overhauls that would go a fair way to shoring up erroneous weakness that apparently are just gaming conventions, that we;ve got to deal with.
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Best T-80B round is mango tho, its T-80U that have 3BM46 and not 3BM42. And also sits entire BR higher.
What your point here ? Giving one the best performing tank the best round in the br. without valid reason is just nonsense is not going to happen and represent it as example of russian bias is just childish.
It’s pretty simple. The T-72 works poorly.
It’s a vastly technologically inferior platform. That aside, the fundamental flaws of the carousel autoloader will forever keep the tanks substandard no matter how many shiny widgets and bricks of ERA you slap on it.
As this is a game, it doesn’t really matter how unrealistically good the tank is in game. Not really the point either. The point is, and always has been, that the NATO tanks are given unrealistic standards for changing them in game.
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Oh, trust me, you don’t need to tell me that America is restrained by its ammunition; Russia is as well. Russia’s best round is the 3BM60, which is one of the worst rounds at the top tier
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Bro, I swear to god you’re trying to rage bait me.
Having such a limited viewpoint of what the T-72 represents and how it’s supposed to be used and how it is being used in actual combat and saying it’s bad is borderline stupid. I’m sorry, I’m not trying to be mean, but I’m just saying what I see.
And please enlighten me in what aspect is a T-72 technologically inferior with the fundamental flaws?