oh 100%, counter UAVs is big focus coming out of the Ukraine war, so I suspect all SHORAD systems going forwards to include a gun of some form for that sort of thing, and the UK has invested pretty heavily in the CTA40 over the years
Well we are also developing dragonfire and the microwave thing


They could be mounted on old warriors (saved it from going off topic don’t worry guys)
So…
Anyone else of the opinion that the Desert Warrior isnt 10.0 material since they screwed TOW’s?
Eh, it’s OK, that’s about it. 10.3 and up is a very MBT saturated BR range, so IFVs just suffer a little bit
Id says 9.7 tops with the current state of TOW’s, but i’d still be happy bringing it out in my 10.0/10.3 line.
Its just theyve borked TOWs.
They’ve borked all ATGMs really. all of them are near uncontrollable lmao
Fair, ive only been using the TOWs since the patch.
effects heavier ATGMs more than lighter ones, so if you’ve only used Milans and such it’s understandable if you didn’t notice. IIRC doesn’t effect barrel launched ATGMs yet though
Mainly use TOW or the BILL, but havent touched the BILL since patch.
I still find Milans to be pretty bad tbh, best atgm i have is the french barrel launched one on the amx 10rc lol, the thing still launches into the ground as gaijin think every atgm has a non existent dip to it for some reason…
Eh, personally I find the milans not too bad but that might be 8.3 britain being one of my go to line ups talking. though in my experience the ZT3A2 ATGMs have a very nice ballistic launch where the dip is further out than a tow or something, now the chassis is a pos, I’d love them to add the Badger variant with the ZT3 ATGMs, has fire on the move too!
You can aim the ZT3A2 ATGMs lmao? they are probably the worst at over correcting at ranges further out than 800m, if the guy stops good luck getting the missiles back on track.
Ok just got the desert warrior since I was in no rush to get it, how bad is it?
…bad the apfsds is like shooting pebbles, and its slower then the standard warrior… yeh… least you have a tow, oh the tows are worse then milans oops
So the base warrior triumphs again.
Should have kept the AP from the dev
I unironically get better post pen and pen overall from the bog standard warrior… Guess we gotta wait for the Ajax bros… or the Warrior CSP …sigh
I’ve got it ready to buy but I’m not playing it until it gets it’s spall liner and the atgms are fixed
It’s pretty shit TBH.
They screwed up it’s mobility so it’s… not fast. They didn’t give it the round they said they would so it’s gun is awfuil and what they did to the missiles is just tragic and stupid.
So I’ve played a few games with the Desert Warrior. It does lack mobility but once it speeds up its quite fast, the gun is pretty bad against MBT’s but even the default belt is ok against light tanks and IFV’s my only problem is post pen damage which will get worse with the APFSDS. The TOW’s aren’t as bad as I was expecting, but they are really painful if the target is moving.
Overall, I’m actually having some fun with it but the base warrior is just better, you get a better round, a more usable missile and better mobility, it might be lacking a stabiliser but I never found that to be a problem, it is a pretty stable gun.
To make it a good vehicle rather than a mediocre one just give it M919, the extra 10mm of pen would make it worth taking over the base warrior and it’s not like they haven’t given rounds to vehicles using the same gun. cough ariete with DM53 cough