Are army-technology and army-guide related?
No. Not sure who Army Guide report to but Army Technology is a separate network.
Worse than this even, the Milan mod we have was specific to 5 vehicles during Op Granby (Desert Storm). After that they were removed from the turret and were just used with dismounts until replaced by Javelin (also used by dismounts). Our warrior should have zero thermals. The MOAV had a gen1 thermal sight replacing the commander’s sight (Osprey), but the increased size of the sight meant the gun was just a dummy gun.
Ideally the base warrior would be thermal-less and a lower BR (maybe with only Milan 1s for balance), progressing into the Desert Warrior and then leading to a Stormer 30, Warrior II (CSP), ending at an Ajax w/Javelin RWS and/or the Boxer with the export turret.
Well both websites say the desert warrior had 2+4 TOWs, not sure if that’ll be good enough for gaijin on its own but if they’re unrelated it’s a good start
There were Warriors with MILAN on the turret during Op Telic (2003 Iraq War) as well
Photo is an FV510 of the Scots DG battlegroup in Basra, 29 March 2003
Albeit Telic was still before BGTI, MILAN’s use in the British Army continued until stocks were depleted in 2006, and overlap the introduction of BGTI in 2004.
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This is also from 2003 apparently
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hey, i got that camo lol.
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Yes if you see a front towing pintle then it’s Iraq War, not Gulf.
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Yeah, there’s a CIP on the front armour. Those were developed after the Gulf War
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from the few images we have of the inside of the warrior, doesn’t it show that the tow placements within the hull are wrong? shouldn’t they be in the same stowage positions of the milan or does the extended length stop this from fitting.
Either way shouldn’t gaijin try and put their “guesstimation” in a spot that makes more sense, like the old missile spots which could have been modified to accommodate the extra size?
MILAN 2 and TOW are similar in length, 1.1m and 1.2m respectively. Daft to give DW an artificially reduced number of reloads for its main anti tank weapon when it will be firing faster than Warrior.
I’m seeing a lot of Warriors carrying missiles on the outside, though…
I’d imagine diameter would be more of an issue, 4.5” MILAN compared to 6” TOW
im more referencing the spot they put them at, as it looks like they would be slap dap right in the middle of the troop compartment with nothing holding them down. at least if they put them in the old spots it would make a tad more sense as rn it shows they know as much as us. so itll be down to “according to our experts” more than a documentation. so unless we get said documentation i doubt well be getting anything changed tbh…sadly.
You can find pictures of entire shipping boxes on the side, I wouldn’t read too much into it. Crews tend to grab anything they think is useful if command doesn’t catch them
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Probably more the packaging than anything else.
Still I would say 2+4 is reasonable even without sources.
gaijin doesn’t do reasonable, they do whatever they chose is correct and without documentation they will continue to do whatever they like. im all for getting it changed but after the years of effort put into the challenger im just trying to not get our hopes up.
Since it is unlikely that the TRIGAT MR will be replacing the Milan, the Warriors of the Milan platoons are currently fitted with storage racks on the left side of the interior to hold 12 missiles. Up to now, without the racks, during operations the crew crammed up to 20 missiles into the rear of the vehicle.
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By the way, is there any source stating that the Warrior carries only 8 missiles? 12 missiles would be nice, it would be on par with the Bradley.
8 isnt even the most it could carry as of now according to gaijin as in the xray the left side only holds 3 of the 4 that could fit so it really should be 8+1. no idea why they think an extra MILAN to miss with would help that much.
Damn I am really proud of everybody. I feel good to put my 3 cents into this case just by playing the warrior during my job