This is very self-explanatory, the FV4030/3 needs to be moved up to 10.0 since it’s absolutely nasty at 9.7. Yes I have the vehicle and have indeed played it thoroughly, I initially had a KDR of 10 and this eventually went down to a good 4.5 later on.
This thing is almost a exact copy of the Challenger Mk.2 other than the composite makeup on the turret, removal of thermals and the usage of L23 instead. Other than this, the FV4030/3 plays exactly the same as the Challenger Mk.2 but in a more devious manner, that being fighting significantly weaker opponents such as the T-55AMD-1 (YES, that T-55…).
How do we fix this? Simple, move the FV4030/3 to 10.0, give it L23A1 and look into the usage of domestic Iranian munition like HEATFS and other things alike. This would make the vehicle more unique all whilst making it more balanced, this would also open up the option for better lineups.
AND PLEASE for the love of God remake that godawful camouflage which comes in the event for the 9th stage reward - I’ve never witnessed something more revolting than that throughout my time on planet earth.
The Challenger series of vehicles have a rifled cannon yet they still operate with APFSDS whenever facing armour, I also saw somewhere about the FV4030/3 being trailed with HEATFS but I could be wrong.
So no, the rifled cannon wouldn’t restrict the usage of munition like HEATFS
I don’t see why this would hinder the application of HEATFS for it in-game, especially since we got vehicles like the F-5C in American service which generally speaking never had countermeasures. Another one would be the YaK-41 which also never carried A2A missiles but only had them planned.
Its basically the shir 1 khalid with chieftain mk10 stillbrew in how it acts in game. 9.7 makes sense. especially as it was never tested with anything newer than L23a1.
And its overall armour is still worse than the T72 of the br as its whole hull is a weakspot
This would somewhat make sense if it wasn’t for the fact that you used the T-72A as a balancing example, something which I wouldn’t call balanced whatsoever. I could see the Shir 2 and T-72A being moved up for decompression and other vehicles similar in performance.
I haven’t done my research into the FV4030/3 yet and most of my information is based of what people have sent in forums so far, I do plan to do some nice thorough research into it soon and reopen my previous report on the T-80UD/BE (DU-1) in due time.
Think of it as balance by powercreep. basically what happened to all of the original top tier vehicles
That’s a very poor method of balance, you can’t leave a vehicle which is obviously overperforming and pray that power creep eventually balances it out.
“I do plan to do some nice thorough research into it soon”
Read messages before you reply, I do plan to research thoroughly into the FV4030/3 like all vehicles I enjoy and nothing will be left untouched in said report as well. But I don’t plan to do it immediately because someone named Nike Ajax told me to.
Most 120mm HEATFS munition in-game have their penetration values copied from a already existing one, Gaijin is also pretty fond with C&Ping things.
The topic to be discussed is BR placement of the FV4030/3 as well, not people gathering information on the purposed HEATFS, so please stop going off-topic.
It doesn’t need a BR increase, the vehicle itself shouldn’t be a event vehicle to be honest, maybe a Premium vehicle or a Battlepass vehicle, as it doesn’t add nothing new, the same Challenger 2 armor design, same cannon and ammunition, just slighly better mobility from what I could experience,
The fact that it starts with APDS makes this vehicle less unexperienced player-friendly, the gun handling is decent, nothing too good or too bad, in general, is just a Challenger 2 with a different name, but moving anything related to the Challenger 2 up is no answer for issue, the fact Gaijin just chooses the easy path to events in general is frustating in my opinion and they most have a change, work on actual new vehicles with new ways to play the game,
The camouflage in question, is just trash, throw a snake skin as a camouflage and done, 45 000 points for this ugly thing, which instead could work on the prototype camouflage, which is historical and fits better for a event vehicle related to a historical event.
As me, I would suggest everyone to keep hopes low for a 45 000 worth vehicle, as Gaijin has a infinite list of copies of vehicles already in-game, examples are the Shir 2 and the F-5A (G)
and the Chieftain mk.3 can face T-64BVs why is this the standard for comparison
You make me feel like a genius, I used that as a example as BR is a method of balancing, vehicles which are superior than others are separated by BR and something like the Chieftain Mk.3 has no right facing against the T-64BV.
You’re using a wrong as an example, that’s why I said vehicles like the T-72A should absolutely move up and last time I checked the T-64BV was indeed decently similar to said vehicle.
Compression between 9.0 to 10.0 vehicles is pretty tight and the performance gap is very vast, hence why I made a topic for discussion about the BR placement of the FV4030/3 and whether it needs to be moved up or not.
The fact that it starts with APDS makes this vehicle less unexperienced player-friendly, the gun handling is decent, nothing too good or too bad
The stock performance of a vehicle doesn’t determine the BR placement of said vehicle, look at the M60 AMBT for example, when stock it’s comparable to a 8.7 Magach and when spaded it’s a entirely different beast.
Same thing with the FV4030/3, the stock grind may be tuff but when you eventually get the essential parts you become a absolute monster at 9.7. The gun handling of the FV4030/3 is also one of the best at its BR for any MBT, it’s nothing short of phenomenal - same with the reload and turret protection.
Im not going to comment on how it performs. I do not have it yet nor have I fought against it yet. But the 9.7 rating in itself it just wierd as we dont really have anything else at 9.7 other than a single premium. So you are either dragging 9.0/9.3 vehicles up to 9.7 or using it at 10.0/10.3 anyway. So it either needs to get buffs like L23A1 and move up, or get some other nerf and move down.
M60s no matter the modification other than the M60 AMBT will always remain worse than the Challenger 1 series of vehicles, the Leopard 2K is pretty much an equal and the T-64BV needs to move up to 10.0 alongside the FV4030/3, all those points you made are either vehicles which are niche in certain areas or vehicles which are on par with the FV4030/3.
then dont complain if you dont have the research. research and sources first, then complaining
Nobody is complaining, the main topic of discussion is entirely based around the BR placement of the FV4030/3 and I only mentioned HEATFS as a future addition, not something which needs to be a immediate implementation, grow up.
M829A1 and KE-W say otherwise.
Leopard 2K is the fastest MBT in the game before Type 90.
Leopard 2K is objectively superior to FV4030/3.
Firing a similar round while being significantly faster.
