heres the image in Mr Hewes video as proof
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Hewes thinks there was a .50 cal. Does not mean it had one. It is probably some kind of assembly or test rig, and if that is a .50 cal at all (which is not clear) . It would have been as a temporary ranging device.
There are no other period photos it with a roof MG mount at all much less a HMG.
ive seen FV4005, thats 50cal size easily, besides there isnt many photographs that are easy to find to go off of, this was clearly a configuration unlike what we see in war thunder
FV4005 was a test mule not meant for production. There would have been no reason to put a AA mount on it. No matter how much you would like one for your video game tank.
But find a photo of it out on the range or doing tests that shows a gun on top.
Okay. So I know you don’t think it’s a .50 cal, but you can’t tell me that it doesn’t look like some sort of MG…
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I think they are just playing stupid
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I don’t know.
@Exocetta does make some good points and is really knowledgeable about a good bit of things so I wouldn’t say that. I’d just say that they want more proof is all because they’re spectacle
Assuming that is an M2 for a moment… Given the time period when the Brits were using “ranging rifles”, likely what they were doing was ballistically matching the ammo to the gun as part of the development program(e). This does not mean it was a useful MG. Again, there are no photos of this on the tank when it was doing tank stuff.
Someone here is… but its not me.
theres not many photos of FV4005 doing anything, and that is a browning 50 machine gun, if you’ve ever seen one you cant mistake it
Yes. But I’ve never seen a ranging MG with a box mag like seen in that photo. Only the clips like found on the M50. And there are clearly 2 of them, one on each side. One that holds the ammo and one that catches the brass (Right side). There’s also a brass ramp coming out of the right too. It also really does look like a M2 or maybe even an M1919. But I’ve never seen those used for ranging…
But then again I’m not the most knowledgeable on MG mounts and stuff.
You also make a good point about there not being any more photos, so we can’t really know for sure
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Yeah its a strange photo. The Brits tended to do odd things while “tinkering”. But as I wrote earlier, the context makes it unlikely it was fitted with an MG mount.
Yeah. I was trying to figure out how it would have been aimed, and all I could think of is remote controlled. I don’t see any firing mech on the mount itself, except maybe a single trigger in the middle, but it’s kinda blurry and I can’t tell really.
Lol. Someone slipped a little brandy in their tea XD
There is probably an equally convoluted linkage to the main gun.
Hmm maybe
ill just add further information here on FV4005 from this years tankfest showguide for you including a higher quality version of the image.
FV4005 was a possible stopgap tank9 before the final vehicle was finished, similar to how the Caernarvon (centurion turret on the universal tank hull) was the stopgap while the conqueror was finished.
And yes (as seen on the second side) It was an M2 50 cal
No it was not. It was purely a test bed for the “discount” engineeringly simplified version of the 183mm gun after the semi-auto loaded version was dropped.
Again, find another source that shows that it actually being used not just different scans of the same one.
this is information directly from The tank museum they not only own the tank but have all of the documents on the tests.
the mounting holes are still visible on the remaining FV4005 as seen in videos by the guy that restored it
sorry to Mr hewes for the muggy screenshot but it shows the holes
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Same source. The holes don’t mean it was for a MG. Hewes also mentions that its not agreed (by The TM) either.