No, I mean this.
This was added to the files on September 12, 2023.
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yes, but inherited from the design of the Soviet era. Ukraine and Russia share a common history and vehicles, and if they were to be separated into two trees, it would be a catastrophic copy and paste.
If we abandon political factors and look at it from the perspective of players
I have observed that Ukrainian players do not care where their vehicles appear. Most of the people who oppose Ukraine joining the Soviet Tree are Russian players who treat the Soviet Union as Russia, but forget that Ukraine was also a part of the Soviet Union.
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I have not seen this before. That is quite interesting. Given that I am not Ukrainian and that I do not speak for Ukrainian people in any capacity, I am going to shut up about this now.
yugoslavia, czech republic, and some Balkan countries can form an independent tree. They have many unique vehicles
There was one idea from a user over at the independent thread that still technically used Ukraine as a sub tree but split them so you can’t mix the ex-republics together only a selected country and Soviet vehicles, I was very for the idea, this way so you don’t have lookalike nations running the matchmaker lol, this idea can potentially be applied to other nations in game.
I saw that. I support that idea much more that the current version, but I dislike the idea of not being able to mix republics together. That can be fine for the Soviet tree, but it can harm other trees. Doing that approach of seperate tabs though could also allow for more subtrees, bypassing that 5 line technical limitation.
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I fixed the flags, so they should be a bit more bearable to look at
Could function as a good showcase of possibilities.
I wonder if this is meant to be more an opinionated post or a general showing of possibilities?
Possibilities, I feel like nobody would really care about my opinion, which is fine lol
Maybe Canada to the UK as well
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I’m still debating if I should add the LATAM tech tree, there is already conflicts when it comes to Argentina.
Perhaps you could then expand it with certain countries having multiple placements.
For example: DPRK as a united independent tree with ROK, but also as a standalone option and also as possibility of PRC or USSR sub-trees.
Perhaps setting certain fixed standards as to when a country is considered eligible to be a sub-tree or independent tree so to keep decisions consistent and the least biased as possible.
A bit of a tangent of mine and it’s an intensive process, it’s ultimately up to you, but I’m just trying to give ideas in case you wish to expand this topic.
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I actually had this in thought, I’ll consider it for sure, I’m still planning the layout.
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No more or less unique than Israel, which should have been a US sub tech tree.
Yeah.
My personal stance is, no more independent tech trees please.
The Big Three, who are already stacked and don’t need sub trees, can be home to a smattering of vehicles from nations that wouldn’t cut it as a subtree (Lithuanian Vilkas in Germany for example). The minors, who desperately need the help, need to get as many subtrees as possible.
Every vehicle in that LATAM proposal should make it into the game. But not as part of an independent tech tree.
I don’t want to get into an argument about LATAM, but other than LATAM, I agree with you fully. And Israel should not have been an independent tree.
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In an ideal world, Ukraine was just another Soviet republic, so its technology tree is already there. Technically you only have to put the Ukrainian vehicles, with the Ukrainian flag, as is done with Russia.
In the WT world, the snails decided to assign, in fact, Russia as heir to the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
In the world of laws and law, Ukraine faces a decommunization process and there is even a legal framework that protects this process, so I suppose that, from this point of view, it is impossible to add Ukrainian vehicles to the USSR tree. .
In the real world, Russia invaded Ukraine, so it would not be morally appropriate to add Ukrainian vehicles to the USSR tree either.
What do you think the snail would do with Taiwan’s vehicles if they entered into a military conflict with China?
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I think Switzerland could easily be a standalone tree, although with a pretty sparse top tier. Combining it with something like Belgium could be fun
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I don’t see anything happening, I’m sure Gaijin foresaw these issues long ago.
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What about France?
I’ll get to the rest of it soon, I’m currently in the middle of moving around my setup so I currently don’t have access to my PC, I’d rather not do it on a phone.