that’s because the faster lock speed
Anyone have some info about type 23L. It’s sucks
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100% the Apache and Z-10 need it.
They are pretty much free food to gun strafe with planes, unlike the APDS laser beam that is the Mi-28 and Ka-50 / Ka-52’s guns
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It have RF HE shells, not time.
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a problem, BA-11 missing iog/gps or whatever it is, clearly it’s unreasonable, I don’t know it’s a dumb mistake or a balance issue but it’s too unreasonable.
not sure what to do to fix that considering the brochure lacks such information
IR/TV missiles dont have IOG because they prefer surface lock
Of all the new heli FnF missiles only the BA11 lacks this feature, nvm the GNSS of 502kg and 305.
Did you not understand what I said? IOG never worked with TV/IR ordinance because they will always do surface lock instead
It does when locks are lost outside of the FOV.
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Again it atraigh up isn’t. It will lock surface happily. This is what happens when someone smokes. It will generally just lock surface in front of the smoke
in this case, it not about LOAL, but self destruction.
with iog/gnss, it will keep flying when lost track, without, it will just explode
Have you tested? does it explode instead of switching from track to point?
It won’t. Right now, IR missiles are no different from IR + GNSS + IOG missiles.
even when the point track is covered in smoke?
Ok, there is a specific scenario I have in mind, but I don’t have IR-+IOG+GNSS missile to check. I only observed the outcome of this scenario using IR track only missiles (TRIGAT LR from Tiger HAC).
When firing at a target in situations where there is terrain generally somewhere in the middle of the flight path, although not exclusively, and using IR missiles:
- Obtain a TRACK lock on a ground target.
- Fire the missile at an angle such that it loses LOS to the target shortly after launch. (Fire the missile pointing downwards, so line of sight to target is blocked by terrain after launch)
The observed result, in all cases, is that the missile is unable to relock the target, even if it immediately regains LOS. It then promptly self-destructs.
I am inclined to believe that IR+IOG+GNSS missiles are able to switch into IOG/GNSS modes and avoid self-destruction. It would then be able to loft and regain LOS, at which point it could regain the IR lock on the ground target if that target had not moved from its earlier position.
If this is true, IR+IOG+GNSS would be significantly better than solely IR guidance in WT. If anyone with access to IR-IOG+GNSS missiles could do the test above, it would be great.
What difference does it make to a missile how it lost its lock? The result is the same.
Self destructions was changed for pretty much all IR/TV missiles. For PARS since someone was talking about it its currently 120s (way more then battery) and its been that way since at least September last year
Nope, thats not how any of this works. Its what I’ve been telling before. IOG will never work if the missile can surface lock. And in almost every case the missile will be able to relock surface after losing a lock.
There are few edge cases of stuff that missile will never point lock onto (some destructible building if someone is sitting in a corner and smokes, it might for a second go into IOG after losing lock but getting replay of that is super rare even for someone spamming helis)
So you’re saying IR+IOG+GNSS missile will IR surface lock after losing the TRACK lock? Do you have any evidence of this possibility? Otherwise, your position is as unproven as mine.