We need T-47 and De Grasse! We need 127 mm/54 Model 1948! ٩(๑òωó๑)۶
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The Emile Bertin seems like such an odd choice for CBT in hindsight. She’s a glass canon without much canon for being a 5.3 ship.
DDs can detonate her from long range, and a lot of them throw more lead per minute.
Question tho didn’t find a proper thread for it but is it normal almost no boat excpet battlships even the heavy cruisers do not have access to any sort of AP shells ?
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France 138.6 mm/40 (5.46") Model 1927 - NavWeaps.
For the example of destroyers using 138mm, this site speaks of a “Starshell M1925” but I don’t really know what it is exactly. Otherwise he only used SAP and HE.
EDIT: Starshell is actually a flare shell.
Ammunition and Mountings Definitions for France - NavWeaps (this link will take you to a page that lists French designations.)
Still it doesn’t quite explain why cruisers do not benefit of APC or APCBC, i mean WTH most other nations cruisers can almost kill a BB with cracked AP with 300mm+ pen meanwhile Lorraine and Paris APC and APCPC struggle reaching 500mm of pen making them look ridiculous compared to other AP BB shells but also compared to some cruisers AP that are almost 400mm pen and no french cruiser get any AP
thanks
so there was APC on the 203 canons thank god we just got gaijin’d for now maybe they’ll fix it one day
For that, Gaijin would have to want to repair them. I reminded you that even out of the Beta the French catapults still do not have modeled planes…
But now the next thing i wanna know is why some cruiser AP can almost put some BB shells to shame because i’ve been looking at some heavy cruiser shells from other naval nations and how to say it. Are the french BB shells made of rubber?
I reaaly need to be educated on French BB shells because i cannot make any sense of how they decided to create their penetration rate i mean lower caliber lighter and almost same speed shells have like 200mm more penetration wth my brain is not braining
Perhaps the velocity is the weight of the French shells which means that they do not necessarily have good penetration? Mixed in with Gaijin’s desire to bring underarmed versions into the game.
yeah but then for example explain Duilio pen rate their shell is lighter and lower caliber just 36m/s faster that doesn’t make sense
I dunno if i’m just being BIASED here but i kinda feel like the BB shells are too slow compared to what they should be. Plus i’d like to konw what kind of calculation between weight and speed is made to calculate pen so i can verify if gaijin is right or not
Well then houston we got a heavy problem here
504 at 0 metter game kind of already jokes itself but wait
so that means all BB from the game just has predetermined values whil french one were actually calculated with the formula or something?
I made the comparision between Lorraine and Kaiser as they are both dreadnought from approxiamtely the same time excpet lorraine is shown in a moderner config but with same armement as in 1912 so no diff
You know, it’s been a long time since I hoped in Gaijin. Gaijin’s logic is quite murky and all we can do is be patient. Because by doing the count, we can notice this:
Rank 1: 3 “Jaguar” classes including 1 which is no longer a “Jaguar” and 1 “Bourasque”
Rank 2: 3 “Eagle” including 3 real C&C
Rank 3: 1 training ship, 1 ship not even French…, 2 Duguay class, and 1 “Fantasque”
Rank 4: 2 Sufren Class, including one with too high a BR, and 1 Emile Bertin
Rank 5: 1 class Courbet and 1 class Bretagne underarmed (for him I still do not understand this choice)
The case of Classe Bretagne and quite disconcerting, why resort to the least known and least well-armed version? Don’t let anyone tell me about balancing, because at similar or lower BRs there are better armed and more powerful ships.
A lot of our trees and a sequel to C&C would be versions with a real difference I don’t mind but mostly it’s the same and the addition of the German Destroyer and really unwelcome France owns many Contre-Torpillieurs that could have been put in place but Gaijin did not. Coincidence? I do not think so…
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i’m doing all calculation for the bbs of the game with their formula and only france depends of the formula any other nation is just boosted af up to 100mm of pen sometimes it’s just dumb at this point
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Some of the choices are real head scratchers in hindsight.
Why not the La Galissonnieres over the Emile?
And the Algerie seems like a no brainer for the heavy cruisers.
It also feels like the Dunerque Class is already obsolete with the Battleships we have in game, so a little curious she wasn’t one of the first BBs added.
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And the silence of the devs on our coastal tree… I’m not asking for its release date but at least that the devs come out of their golden cage take their courage in both hands and come to give us explanations. I don’t care about explanations from the players, I want those from the developers…
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