Yeah well I don’t play top tier as it is way to cancerous for me
I would prefer playing in ground rb with limited planes than the actual CAS rb with minimum 7 in the sky killing everyone
When will this end? This game has become filled with Gepards, XM246, Falcons, etc. that are not used as SPAA, but instead spraying and praying against tanks… I know this is not a simulator type game, so I am not expecting realism, but hasn’t this gone too far?
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No, no it hasn’t. Is this the new bot spam topic? Some botnet got mad that they got dakkadakka by some good ol’ autocannon goodness, so now it’s spam SPAA topic instead of BMPT topic.
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The only way it’s going to stop is if Gaijin removes the APHE belts from SPAA, APDS was not the problem. SPAA should just get HE-I, it’s anti air not anti yes
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Problem:
Battlepass literally encourages it.
Get N kills in SPAA.
Fastest way to do it?
Use it as a tank destroyer.
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Well, they just massively nerfed the falcon but the issue really comes that these SPAA are too short ranged to be sitting back defensively like SAMs can, they are best suited to being close to the tanks you are defending. To that end they do need a certain amount of self defence.
Not the only fix…
All these issues wouldve been solved if aphe wasnt a nuke. then spaa players will have to actually aim for individual crew or rely on volumetic bs to kill tanks. But the Big Three players didnt want to learn weakspots and aim better.
A gepard can kill the entire crew of a tank by hitting the commanders hatch but if aphe wasnt a nuke, it might only get the commander and gunner at most, giving more time to react
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That would work too
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I agree but they should’ve kept the APDS. A single Gepard shot managed to one shot my XM1 from the front
Some spaa are pretty much only tank destroyers, like the duster. 35mm spaa is annoying, they should probably reduce the explosive filler in the shells so they aren’t as potent
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Eh… that is a slippery slope. What they should do is fix APHE
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Fastest way its ir/saclos spaa in ground arcade, alwayd a lot of cas with little to no time to react.
It’s a massive problem for the rank 6 area of the game, but as usual there will be people who pretend like reality isn’t reality such as some of the users here show.
Considering the XM246 was the only Gepard to be moved up (despite being one of the weakest) I highly doubt Gajin will do anything abt it any time soon.
XM246 is more than balance with BR increase, it doesn’t even has apds with weak engine , if you can’t spot that big ass slow vehicle problem is you then
APDS was never the issue with these SPAA, it was APHE, which the XM246 has, and the XM246 has an absurd damage model making it very easy to tank shots that would kill MBTs. It deserved the uptier.
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‘Unexpected threat’ BP task should be renamed to ‘Expected threat’.
SPAAs are plowing through tanks like Rocco through (insert the name of a country, region, continent or planet here).
I blasted Chieftain frontally with Sgt York… Seriously… WTF?
M247 only has 30mm of pen. But because of overpressure, those shots against an observation device have a chance to outright kill anything.
Spaa are not the issue. The belts they use are not the issue. Its how gaijin designed this game. I can just as easily use the m53/59 woth the apcr belt and kill off half the ground vehicles i encounter. But the vehicle itself is open and slow and vulnerable to everything.
You cant get around it. If it has pen, it is a threat to something. You cant keep complaining and nerfing everything to compensate your lack of skill.
At top tier are simply too many SPAA around these days. I have to say, in hindsight the free spaa spawn was a ridiclulous idea.
Its quite difficult to fight top of the line SPAAs, except youre in a russian KH-38 slinger or an LMUR chopper.
When you use all your skill and take this system out (usually 2 launch units, 1 Radar), they immeadetly spawn again with respawn tokens or free generic SPAA. No even 10 seconds after your success the situation is like before. They even have spawn protection and just shot you, you can’t do alot. Then the free SPAA or another one from their lineup. There are other players as well.
I don’t really know why jets like the EF2000 cost that much spawn points, its very hard to score against this SPAA flood. You need really fast moving F&F AGMs like KH38, which are hard to intercept…everything else is too difficult to use. Almost pointless to spawn air. You only see Rus scoring air to ground, imho.
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