Free SPAAs are too powerful

[gfdsa_killer]

@ULQ_LOVER

Deserve it because You did well? Kind of strange mentality.

gfdsa_killer:

Im being fair. Sure it its fun for me to farm the enemy team, but did you ever though of what the enemy team feels?? It will not be fun for them and actually encourage early leaving. Also theres many cases where I am the one being camped.
Maybe I love challenges?? who knows

@ULQ_LOVER

You are able to do so too

And thats why you arent able to do so if facing an decent intelligent opponent. Lets say a well armored target as a jagdtiger or a Leopard2a7. By the time you exit spawn you have to know exactly where the camper is, then aim for the weakspot, and then shoot. Now what is the perspective of the spawncamper? Well he already knows the range, he knows where are you gonna come from and by the point he actually sees you he will shoot.

[ULQ_LOVER]

@gfdsa_killer

but did you ever though of what the enemy team feels??

Sorry but I have just spill out the coffee reading this.

@gfdsa_killer

It will not be fun for them and actually encourage early leaving. Also theres many cases where I am the one being camped.
Maybe I love challenges?? who knows

Challange is being attacked by something You can fight back, not something You can’t do anything about.

@gfdsa_killer

By the time you exit spawn you have to know exactly where the camper is, then aim for the weakspot, and then shoot.

By knowing where Your team is/isn’t, what point is taken You can predict where people are.

[gfdsa_killer]

@ULQ_LOVER

Sorry but I have just spill out the coffee reading this.

Its called balance.

@ULQ_LOVER

Challange is being attacked by something You can fight back, not something You can’t do anything about.

Dont you have a top machine gun? dont you have smoke? dont you have vehicles that works as AT and SPAA at the same time (like 155mm arty HE-VT or ligh tanks such as 2s38 or begleit)

@ULQ_LOVER

By knowing where Your team is/isn’t, what point is taken You can predict where people are.

Replays didnt showed this.

[ULQ_LOVER]

@gfdsa_killer

Its called balance.

Not really, balance would be if both players had a chance against each other.

@gfdsa_killer

Dont you have a top machine gun?

In most cases it has limited angle it can shoot at.

@gfdsa_killer

dont you have smoke?

Won’t work against 1000kg bomb landing on You.

@gfdsa_killer

dont you have vehicles that works as AT and SPAA at the same time (like 155mm arty HE-VT or ligh tanks such as 2s38 or begleit)

Can’t transform something like Type 61 into an SPAA.

@gfdsa_killer

Replays didnt showed this.

You mean a couple of games I have played I were sick compared to all the games I have played? Sure

[Kievskiy_Minipig]

@ULQ_LOVER

Deserve it because You did well? Kind of strange mentality.

Deserved it for camping and not relocating. Especially in a game where kill cam conviniently reveals your position and players can shower you with 3d markers.

[ULQ_LOVER]

@Kievskiy_Minipig

Deserved it for camping and not relocating. Especially in a game where kill cam conviniently reveals your position and players can shower you with 3d markers.

lmao x2

[gfdsa_killer]

@ULQ_LOVER

Not really, balance would be if both players had a chance against each other.

Balance its that every type of vehicle has a counter. Whats a counter against a far spawncamper? Arty will not have enough range, so CAS would be the only one, if you dont want to waste 2 or more lives of your team to actually kill a single guy.

@ULQ_LOVER

In most cases it has limited angle it can shoot at.

The .50 had more than enough angle to shoot that SK down, or at least make it go away.

@ULQ_LOVER

Won’t work against 1000kg bomb landing on You.

smoke more for top tier battles

@ULQ_LOVER

Can’t transform something like Type 61 into an SPAA.

The flyby that SK made over you was really low. You didnt even turn around to try to shoot it down.

@ULQ_LOVER

You mean a couple of games I have played I were sick compared to all the games I have played? Sure

From January to February, yes

[ULQ_LOVER]

@gfdsa_killer

Balance its that every type of vehicle has a counter.

And most if not all vehicles can be killed eaisly by vehicles at their respective B.R.

@gfdsa_killer

Whats a counter against a far spawncamper?

A person using a brain?

@gfdsa_killer

The .50 had more than enough angle to shoot that SK down, or at least make it go away.

Are we really using that one scenario/one vehicle now?

@gfdsa_killer

smoke more for top tier battles

ULQ_LOVER:

Against guided ammo that was shot and You know about it? Yea

@gfdsa_killer

The flyby that SK made over you was really low. You didnt even turn around to try to shoot it down.

Again really we are just talking about that one scenario?

- YouTube

What player in a nashorn should have done?

@gfdsa_killer

From January to February, yes

So again, preatty small amount compared to all the games I have played ;)

[gfdsa_killer]

Would be nice you showed us then.
Instead of all those revenge bombings.

@ULQ_LOVER

What player in a nashorn should have done?

Sadly nothing in that position, just be the first guy in his team to spawn spaa and protect the rest.

[ULQ_LOVER]

@gfdsa_killer

Would be nice you showed us then.
Instead of all those revenge bombings.

You want me to show that I can deal with campers in specific spots on specific maps? I will if mm allows me to.

@gfdsa_killer

Sadly nothing in that position, just be the first guy in his team to spawn spaa and protect the rest.

So no balance here, and it can happen to most ground vehicles ;)

[TEZACK27-live]

New from just the title this was a CAS player coping.

[Von_Valinor]

@MAUSWAFFE

This is a perfect example of what CAS should be used for. I get complaining about stuff like people mass-firing GPS missiles at spawn, but if someone’s doing well on the ground that’s just a priority target.

Exactly, the issue isn’t that it’s literally impossible to eliminate well-positioned enemies; the issue is precisely at what cost you can eliminate that position.

Are you going to sacrifice several tanks for this, or try a high-risk/high-reward opportunity like CAS.

[Von_Valinor]

@Herojure24

CAS is so cheap that there is like 5 planes up it’s not much help

CAS has an asymmetry problem, but saying it’s cheap isn’t true.

[gfdsa_killer]

@gfdsa_killer

Balance its that every type of vehicle has a counter. Whats a counter against a far spawncamper? Arty will not have enough range, so CAS would be the only one, if you dont want to waste 2 or more lives of your team to actually kill a single guy.

I would resume this as rock, paper, sissors.

Tank can kill spaa but not cas.

Cas can kill tank but not spaa.

Spaa can kill cas but not tank.

Ofc theres some good plays where you can kill tanks with spaa or kill spaa with cas. But overall, its like a rock paper sissors game of which one has more advantage over another type of vehicle.

[Herojure24]

Wdym it’s not true? You can get into a plane by literally getting 1 scout, assist and then dying. My friend has done it multiple times over the past few days. With as low as 400 score he was able to spawn in a pulkzerstörer

[Von_Valinor]

only if it’s in the low tier.
You can’t spawn an aircraft with less than 600-800 sp on top tier

[Ghost_of_TelAviv]

@Von_Valinor

top tier

It’s actually 983 i believe, with f&f loadout.

Edit: 936

[ULQ_LOVER]

@gfdsa_killer

I would resume this as rock, paper, sissors.

Tank can kill spaa but not cas.

Cas can kill tank but not spaa.

Spaa can kill cas but not tank.

That would be the case if CAS had little to no chance against SPAA but It isn’t.

[ULQ_LOVER]

Scouting doesn’t work on top tier?

[MatrixRupture]

Yeah it’s fairly easy to stay alive as CAS. Even with the free SPAA.

You have to be a standoff nuisance more than a pinpoint killer.

Example if I see the enemy start to cap A I CCRP 7x540 lbs bombs to A point.

Might not kill anyone but a track or barrel destroyed gives my team a big advantage in taking the point.